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Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to TDWG-SDD@LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU (fwd)
by Jim Croft 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

>CAML is already a (excellent) programming language, see >http://caml.inria.fr/index-eng.html Damn... all the good ones are taken... story of my life... jim ~ Jim Croft ~ jrc(a)anbg.gov.au ~ 02-62465500 ~ www.anbg.gov.au/jrc/ ~

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BODDS Re: Name for the standard
by Karen E. Medina 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

BODDS -Biological Ontological Descriptive Data Standard. It sounds kinda sexy when you say BODDS outloud. Or very juvenile. Or both. I'd kinda liked the idea of doing something in latin. -karen medina On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Kevin Thiele wrote: > Jim your skills are wasted. Get a real job! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Croft" <jrc(a)ANBG.GOV.AU> > To: <TDWG-SDD(a)LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:46 AM > Subject: Re: Name for the standard > > > > >How about BIODDS - BIOlogical Descriptive Data Standard? > > > > or BDDS... > > > > but the data is probably a given in this day and age so we could get away > > with BDS... > > > > .... > > > > but most people would probably refer to it as the 'BD standard' so we > could > > shorten it further to BD... > > > > and if we do the job properly and at the right level there is no reason > why > > it needs to be restricted to biology, so it could be the D standard... or > D > > > > or Descriptive Ontology Integrating Taxonomy: DO IT > > > > Got it! ... Descriptive Environment for Large Taxonomic Arrays... > > > > now, where did I put those pills... > > > > jim > > > > > > ~ Jim Croft ~ jrc(a)anbg.gov.au ~ 02-62465500 ~ www.anbg.gov.au/jrc/ ~ > --------------------------->>>>>***<<<<<--------------------------- Karen E Medina Sometimes reachable through: 217/244-2757

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Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to TDWG-SDD@LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU (fwd)
by Guillaume Rousse 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

Ainsi parlait Jim Croft : > >CAML is already a (excellent) programming language, see > >http://caml.inria.fr/index-eng.html > > Damn... all the good ones are taken... I forgot to say the camel symbol itself was already used by the Perl communauty :-P http://www.perl.org/ -- Suppressive fires -- won't -- Murphy's Military Laws n°3

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Re: Name for the standard
by Cornelia Buchen-Osmond 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

RE: Name for the standardxDELTA was Leigh Dobbs invention as far as I understand. Dr Cornelia Büchen-Osmond Biosphere 2 Center 32540 S. Biosphere Road P.O. Box 689 Oracle, AZ 85623 U.S.A. Please note that our phone numbers have changed. Phone +1 (520) 838-5126 Fax +1 (520) 838-6214 email: buchen(a)bio2.columbia.edu ICTVdB - The Universal Virus Database home at Bio2 http://ictvdb.bio2.edu/ mirror in the USA http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ICTVdb/ mirror in the UK http://www.ictvdb.iacr.ac.uk/ mirror in China http://ictvdb.mirror.ac.cn/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Thiele To: TDWG-SDD(a)LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: Re: Name for the standard so far, we have: BioDDS - (Chuck Miller) (spinning off to BDDS -> BDS -> BD -> D ->DELTA ->Jim Croft) BioDescML - (Chuck Miller) BioML - (Jim Croft) (taken - see xml.coverpages.org/bioml.html) BioTaxML - (Chuck Miller) CAML (Jim Croft) (taken - see http://www.vision.fhg.de/~veenhuis/CAML/) ExSDD - (Stan Blum) DescML - (Jim Croft) PanML (Nick Lander, who will undoubtedly pass the port to Richard Pankhurst) TDML - (Guillaume Rousse) TaxDescML - (Guillaume Rousse) xDELTA - (don't know who to give the port to for this one - maybe Mike Dallwitz) XSDD - (Bob Morris and Stan Blum) Keep them coming. There hasn't been so much traffic on the list for years! -k

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Re: Name for the standard
by Jim Croft 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

>A little bureaucratic ... You need to get out more often ... tell me about it... :( jim ~ Jim Croft ~ jrc(a)anbg.gov.au ~ 02-62465500 ~ www.anbg.gov.au/jrc/ ~

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Re: Name for the standard
by Chuck.Miller＠MOBOT.ORG 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

How many XML schemas are currently in work within TDWG(Collections, SDD, Economic Botany, Geography, Spatial Data) and GBIF(DADI, ECAT, and DIGIT)? Is there a way to unify them under some more universal schemaML naming approach? This seems like a unique moment in time to start a precedent. The GBIF Biodiversity Data Architecture document is replete with models of interfaces and web services that will all require new XML schemas to be created--each needing a name. GBIF also intends to add schemas for taxa, literature, gazeteers, indexes, providers, etc. Is there a way to be more universal in naming these schemas? The simple names like BioML, TaxML, etc. have already been used and are probably too general anyway. (OmniML?) One approach could be to concatentate dipthongs or something to create a schema of ML names. For example, BioDescML, BioTaxML, BioLitML. Or BioDML, BioTML, BioLML. Or GBIFDescML. Or TDWGDescML. Chuck Miller -----Original Message----- From: Jim Croft [mailto:jrc@ANBG.GOV.AU] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:53 PM To: TDWG-SDD(a)LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU Subject: Re: Name for the standard is DescML taken? jim >jrc> So what is it to be? BioML? > >preoccupied, although there in no strict registration mechanism except >its flavour in namespace. http://xml.coverpages.org/bioml.html ~ Jim Croft ~ jrc(a)anbg.gov.au ~ 02-62465500 ~ www.anbg.gov.au/jrc/ ~

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Re: Name for the standard
by Greg Whitbread 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

A little bureaucratic ... You need to get out more often ... On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 11:52, Jim Croft wrote: > is DescML taken? > > jim > > >jrc> So what is it to be? BioML? > > > >preoccupied, although there in no strict registration mechanism > >except its flavour in namespace. > >http://xml.coverpages.org/bioml.html > > ~ Jim Croft ~ jrc(a)anbg.gov.au ~ 02-62465500 ~ www.anbg.gov.au/jrc/ ~ -- Greg Whitbread <ghw(a)anbg.gov.au> ANBG/CPBR/ANH

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Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to TDWG-SDD@LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU (fwd)
by Jim Croft 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

>Similarly, we could honour Richard Pankhurst with PanXML, which should >cover most things we might use it for. or Comprehensive Abstraction Markup Language - CAML or Comprehensive Annotation Markup Language - CAML both pronounced 'camel' ... in honour of its design process... jim ~ Jim Croft ~ jrc(a)anbg.gov.au ~ 02-62465500 ~ www.anbg.gov.au/jrc/ ~

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Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to TDWG-SDD@LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU (fwd)
by Guillaume Rousse 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

Ainsi parlait Jim Croft : > >Similarly, we could honour Richard Pankhurst with PanXML, which should > >cover most things we might use it for. > > or Comprehensive Abstraction Markup Language - CAML > or Comprehensive Annotation Markup Language - CAML > > both pronounced 'camel' ... in honour of its design process... CAML is already a (excellent) programming language, see http://caml.inria.fr/index-eng.html And annotation or abstraction isn't specific to systematics moreover. -- The more work you have to get done, the more likely it is to rain. -- Precipitation Precepts n°1

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Re: Name for the standard
by Jim Croft 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

is DescML taken? jim >jrc> So what is it to be? BioML? > >preoccupied, although there in no strict registration mechanism >except its flavour in namespace. >http://xml.coverpages.org/bioml.html ~ Jim Croft ~ jrc(a)anbg.gov.au ~ 02-62465500 ~ www.anbg.gov.au/jrc/ ~

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