September 2003 - tdwg-content

Re: Name for the standard
by Jim Croft 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

>How about BIODDS - BIOlogical Descriptive Data Standard? or BDDS... but the data is probably a given in this day and age so we could get away with BDS... .... but most people would probably refer to it as the 'BD standard' so we could shorten it further to BD... and if we do the job properly and at the right level there is no reason why it needs to be restricted to biology, so it could be the D standard... or D or Descriptive Ontology Integrating Taxonomy: DO IT Got it! ... Descriptive Environment for Large Taxonomic Arrays... now, where did I put those pills... jim ~ Jim Croft ~ jrc(a)anbg.gov.au ~ 02-62465500 ~ www.anbg.gov.au/jrc/ ~

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Re: Name for the standard
by Nozomi Ytow 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

jrc> So what is it to be? BioML? preoccupied, although there in no strict registration mechanism except its flavour in namespace. http://xml.coverpages.org/bioml.html Cheers, JMS -- Dr. Nozomi "James" Ytow Institute of Biological Sciences / Gene research center University of Tsukuba Tsukuba, Ibaraki 305-8572 Japan

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Re: Name for the standard
by Kevin Thiele 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

MessageBest yet - any improvements anyone? ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck.Miller(a)MOBOT.ORG To: TDWG-SDD(a)LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:10 AM Subject: Re: Name for the standard Kevin, Don't forget biological. How about BIODDS - BIOlogical Descriptive Data Standard? Chuck Miller Missouri Botanical Garden -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Thiele [mailto:kevin.thiele@BIGPOND.COM] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:32 AM To: TDWG-SDD(a)LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU Subject: Name for the standard I'm trying to write an introduction and primer for the SDD standard, and it strikes me that we don't actually have a name for the thing we're trying to create. SDD is short for the Structure of Descriptive Data, and is an acronym only for the subgroup, not for the standard. Anyone out there with a facility with acronyms? relevant keywords include taxonomy descriptions XML markup language transform there are surely more. Cheers - k

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Re: Name for the standard
by Guillaume Rousse 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

Ainsi parlait Kevin Thiele : > MessageBest yet - any improvements anyone? All domain-specific XML standard are kind of fooML: MathML GeoML So i'd suggest to keep it that way. >>How about BIODDS - BIOlogical Descriptive Data Standard? Biological Descriptive isn't very adequate here. Are we supposed to describe populations ? genomes ? cells ? Just because bioinformatics usually means molecular biology only shouldn't lead us to the same kind of attitude. <rant> BTW, could people please use standard mail practice to quote only what is relevant and insert your replies thereafter ? It makes long thread reading way easier... </rant> -- Guillaume Rousse Facings tend to be sewn to the wrong side -- Murphy's Laws of Sewing n°12

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Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to TDWG-SDD@LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU (fwd)
by Mauro J. Cavalcanti 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

Stan Blum gravada: > Actually, I liked Jim's "D", or even better still, DELTA. Didn't Mauro > Calvalcanti and others try to establish "Open-DELTA"? This one could be > xDELTA (!). I do like the fact that it would honor one of the pioneers in > this field. Don't Dalwitz's papers go back to 1980? In chip-years that's > a long time! It is actually "Free DELTA" - as DELTA, the format, has since the beginning been conceived as an open standard for data exchange. See the GNU Project at www.gnu.org for clarifications of the terms "free" and "open" software. [], -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - Mauro J. Cavalcanti - - - - - - - - - - - - + | Programa de Pós-Graduação em Zoologia | | Museu Nacional/Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro | | Quinta da Boa Vista, 20940-040, Rio de Janeiro, RJ, BRASIL | | E-mail: maurobio(a)acd.ufrj.br | | Homepage: http://www.maurobio.cjb.net | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + "Life is complex. It consists of real and imaginary parts."

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Re: Name for the standard
by Kevin Thiele 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

I agree, description is an essential part. But, of course, it doesn't need to be an english-sounding acronym - something Latinate would be nice...k ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guillaume Rousse" <rousse(a)CCR.JUSSIEU.FR> To: <TDWG-SDD(a)LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Name for the standard Ainsi parlait Kevin Thiele : > Dear Nick - I'd thought of TaxML and had rejected it as too boring - so was > enormously amused to find that tax inspectors think it's just the ticket > :-) Better avoid taxonomic word alone, as this standard address descriptive data only. Something such as TDML, or TaxDescML, for Taxonomic Description Markup Language, would be better IMHO. -- If you take more than your fair share of objectives, you will get more than your fair share of objectives to take -- Murphy's Military Laws n°45

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Re: Name for the standard
by Kevin Thiele 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

Dear Nick - I'd thought of TaxML and had rejected it as too boring - so was enormously amused to find that tax inspectors think it's just the ticket :-) Cheers - k ----- Original Message ----- From: Lander, Nicholas To: TDWG-SDD(a)LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Name for the standard Kevin What a pity TaXML has been bagged by the Tax Inspectors :-( Nicholas -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Thiele [mailto:kevin.thiele@BIGPOND.COM] Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2003 2:32 PM To: TDWG-SDD(a)LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU Subject: Name for the standard I'm trying to write an introduction and primer for the SDD standard, and it strikes me that we don't actually have a name for the thing we're trying to create. SDD is short for the Structure of Descriptive Data, and is an acronym only for the subgroup, not for the standard. Anyone out there with a facility with acronyms? relevant keywords include taxonomy descriptions XML markup language transform there are surely more. Cheers - k

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Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to TDWG-SDD@LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU (fwd)
by Stan Blum 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

>>I give a second on Stan's suggestion, ExSDD! Well Done Stan, >>Liz. Actually, I liked Jim's "D", or even better still, DELTA. Didn't Mauro Calvalcanti and others try to establish "Open-DELTA"? This one could be xDELTA (!). I do like the fact that it would honor one of the pioneers in this field. Don't Dalwitz's papers go back to 1980? In chip-years that's a long time! -Stan

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Re: Name for the standard
by Robert A. (Bob) Morris 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

Best yet, but XSDD has the same pronounciation and evokes XML Bob Stan Blum writes: > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:34:10 -0700 > From: Stan Blum <sblum(a)calacademy.org> > To: TDWG-SDD(a)listserv.nhm.ku.edu > Subject: Re: Name for the standard > > At 07:10 AM 9/10/2003 +1000, Kevin Thiele wrote: > >Best yet - any improvements anyone? > > > ExSDD (pronounced "Ex eS Dee Dee" or "ExcessDD" = exchange structure for > descriptive data > > -Stan (not implying that the standard is excessive ;-) >

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Name for the standard
by Kevin Thiele 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

I'm trying to write an introduction and primer for the SDD standard, and it strikes me that we don't actually have a name for the thing we're trying to create. SDD is short for the Structure of Descriptive Data, and is an acronym only for the subgroup, not for the standard. Anyone out there with a facility with acronyms? relevant keywords include taxonomy descriptions XML markup language transform there are surely more. Cheers - k

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