[dwc-material-sample] Draft doc on Organism, Occurrence, and MaterialSample

John Wieczorek tuco at berkeley.edu
Mon Nov 15 18:09:40 UTC 2021


I don't know about having its own page. I just know we have to solve it.
There was already a long discussion about it starting here:
https://github.com/tdwg/dwc/issues/339#issuecomment-833963738

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 3:00 PM Stan Blum <stanblum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I also think the boundary between organism and taxon is important to
> get right.  I'm not sure it belongs on this page, though one of the next
> scenarios I think does belong on this page is comes with "lots" --
> multiple individuals together as one material sample. That starts to go the
> direction of taxon, but it might not get there until we begin talking about
> observations -- really large numbers of (or very endangered species!)
>
> Does the organism - taxon distinction deserve its own "page"?
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:29 AM John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Very nice wiki page, Stan! Thanks for that.
>>
>> One thing I wonder is whether we need to add Taxon to that list. I know
>> that in discussions people have expressed conflicting opinions about
>> whether there is a continuum from Organism to Taxon. If we can't dispel
>> that, we'll have to conclude what that relationship actually is formally
>> before we get very far with Organism. I don't want to spawn a discussion of
>> that here in the mailing list, but I would really like to have that
>> straight at the same time we try to make other definitions. Is it OK to get
>> that into the mix?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:29 AM Stan Blum <stanblum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> While our discussions of issues have been very very helpful, they tend
>>> to stray from the original title of the issue. I think it would be helpful
>>> if we went at this with a bit more structure.   I think the progress we've
>>> made indicates that we might be able to come to a consensus about the
>>> concepts Organism, Occurrence, and MaterialSample, and in particular, how
>>> they should be encoded so that they are correctly aggregated and
>>> interpreted by end users.  So...
>>>
>>> I've posted what we might use as a starter doc on the home page
>>> <https://github.com/tdwg/material-sample/wiki> on our repository's
>>> wiki. But I think it would be far easier to comment and revise this in
>>> GoogleDocs.  So I'd like to propose that the group create a GoogleDocs
>>> folder with everyone having edit rights.  I'll invite you using the email
>>> address you've used to subscribe to the mailing list.  If you prefer to use
>>> another account for GoogleDocs, please let me know (by direct reply) and
>>> I'll add that account as well.  If editing takes off in the GoogleDoc, I'll
>>> delete that content from the wiki page as it gets out of date.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> Stan
>>>
>>>
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