The reason behind choosing the name Audubon Core was not just the subject matter (eco covers just
about everything we do with biodiversity), but it salutes a very famous and prolific illustrator and
publicizer of natural history illustrations. The thought followed the tribute to Darwin in the Darwin Core.
The name Audubon should pop up prominently and provide the opportunity for a nice story in tribute for
this standard for sharing "biodiversity multimedia resources and collections."
Gail
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>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:18:23 +1100
>From: Paul Murray <pmurray(a)anbg.gov.au>
>Subject: Re: [tdwg-tag] Audubon Core namespace [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>To: Bob Morris <morris.bob(a)gmail.com>
>Cc: "Vishwas Chavan (GBIF)" <vchavan(a)gbif.org>, "José Cuadra (GBIF)" <jcuadra(a)gbif.org>, Greg
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>On 28/11/2010, at 4:46 AM, Bob Morris wrote:
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>> Let's settle this. I think http://abnc.tdwg.org works and is easy to
>> associate with Audubon Core. In my opinion:
>> - ac is too short and not evocative
>> - adbc has too much baggage in the U.S. because of the NSF
>> digitization effort
>> http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=503559&org=&from_org=NSF
>> - adbnc is too long, though a close second for me
>> - audc is possible but more evocative of audio than audubon
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>The other approach would be to name it after its subject mater. If Audubon Core concerns itself with
ecology, then eco.tdwg.org would work.
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Let's settle this. I think http://abnc.tdwg.org works and is easy to
associate with Audubon Core. In my opinion:
- ac is too short and not evocative
- adbc has too much baggage in the U.S. because of the NSF
digitization effort
http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=503559&org=&from_org=NSF
- adbnc is too long, though a close second for me
- audc is possible but more evocative of audio than audubon
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I like the sound of the 'compactness' of the format, but I worry that there is a lack of tools that support the format (ie browsers, mainly). It is quite nice to naturally navigate the rdf world with a standard browser. But for transfer standards, I suppose this wouldn't matter.
Kevin
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Date: Sun, Jan 24, 2010 12:08 PM
Subject: [tdwg-tag] RDF N3
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Let's make N3 be the recommended RDF representation. It is way more
compact and human readable than RDF/XML. We could even specify a
normative conversion tool if necessary.
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De: Arturo H. Ariño [mailto:artarip@unav.es]
Enviado el: martes, 16 de noviembre de 2010 13:28
Para: 'Roger Hyam'
CC: 'hlapp(a)nescent.org'; 'morris.bob(a)gmail.com'; 'griccardi(a)fsu.edu';
'jcuadra(a)gbif.org'; 'Vishwas Chavan (GBIF)'; 'tdwg-tad(a)tdwg.org'
Asunto: RE: [tdwg-tag] namespaces
One _Argentosirena_ with a silvery Wig was a Tad BioBlitzed while
Confidently trying to Hole up in the pier's Wood, but the waves were Lapping
at her and was Squarely framed by a prospective Morphbank contributor
sailing under the Jolly Roger. Had her been an six-legged arthropod instead,
the sailor would possibly have made her into a voucher specimen with a pin
the size of an infantry Morris:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54396926@N03/5037410181/
A.-
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En nombre de Roger Hyam Enviado el: lunes, 15 de noviembre de 2010 16:01
Para: Hilmar Lapp
CC: Bob Morris; tdwg-tag(a)tdwg.org; Greg Riccardi; José Cuadra (GBIF);
Vishwas Chavan (GBIF)
Asunto: Re: [tdwg-tag] namespaces
I have quite a few occurrence records for mermaids. We find them on the
beach when we are on holiday with the kids - amongst the sand castles. My
best voucher photo is attached. Not sure what species this is of if the list
server will let the attachment through.
Jonathan Reese, an employee of the Science Commons and TDWG member
(and who knows way more about semantic web than I do) recently sent me
this. I copy it here with his permission. Each of the paragraphs seems
to me to be germane in different ways to the discussions about what
should be an Individual. For those not deep into RDF, for the word
"axiom", you could loosely understand "rule", although that term also
has technical meaning that is sometimes a little different. Jonathan
raises an important use case in the second paragraph, which is data
quality control. That's a topic of interest to many, but especially
those following the new Annotation Interest Group. Originally, this
was part of a discussion we had about my favorite hobby horse,
rdfs:domain. He is not on my side. When people who know more than I
do about something are skeptical of my arguments about it, I usually
suspend disbelief and temporarily adopt their position.
Jonathan's first point is pretty much what Paul Murray observed
yesterday in response to a question of Kevin Richards.
"(a) subclassing is the way in RDFS or OWL you would connect the more
specific to the less specific, so that you can apply general theorems
to a more specific entity. That is, a well-documented data set would
be rendered using classes and properties that were very specific so as
to not lose information, and then could be merged with a
badly-documented data set by relaxing to more general classes and
properties using subclass and subproperty knowledge.
(b) axioms (i.e. specificity) are valuable not only for expressing
operational and inferential semantics, but also for "sanity checking"
e.g. consistency, satisfiability, Clark/Parsia integrity checks (
http://clarkparsia.com/pellet/icv/ ), and similar. Being able to
detect ill-formed inputs is incredibly valuable.
People talk past one another because there are many distinct use cases
for RDF and assumptions are rarely surfaced. For L(O)D, you're
interested in making lots of links with little effort. Semantics is
the enemy because it drives up costs. For semantic web, on the other
hand, you're interested in semantics, i.e. understanding and
documenting the import of what's asserted and making a best effort to
only assert things that are true, even in the presence of open world
assumption and data set extensibility. Semantics is expensive because
it requires real thought and often a lot of reverse engineering.
People coming from these two places will never be able to get along."
---Jonathan Rees in email to Bob Morris
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> Jim (who proposed Wallace Core as a working title for an ontology
> project, to stick it to that glory seeker Darwin and because the
> abbreviation WC: was somehow descriptive of where things were going)
OMG! I am peeing in my pants! First a picture of a mermaid (BTW I liked the bra, assuming she was not naked!), then WC as an acronym (a gem). This is getting much better than Taxacom where somebody just suggested to get rid of ITIS and CoL. Life is fun indeed!
Nico
>
> On Tuesday, November 16, 2010, Steve Baskauf
> <steve.baskauf(a)vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Not to throw cold water on a cute idea, but would it be good to
>> consider possible confusion/trademark issues with the National Audubon
>> Society, which is generically known as "Audubon"?
>> Steve
>>
>> Bob Morris wrote:
>>
>> Much as I would love to be the convenor of mrmd, I must concede that
>> Audubon Core has way more marketability.
>>
>> Two issues then arise: 1. An acronym for use in name spaces and
>> communication; 2. the need(?) for a word to replace "core" in
>> describing the most important terms in the proposed standard, and
>> which are the ones we suggest are the minimal set that implementers of
>> consuming software should be prepared to handle gracefully. Audubon
>> Core Core sounds silly and confusing to me.
>>
>> As to 1., I somewhat favor some form of adbn. Or if we must end it in
>> "c" and can't tolerate adbnc, then maybe adnc (resp. AdnC).
>>
>> As to 2, I have no suggestion
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Gregor Hagedorn <g.m.hagedorn(a)gmail.com>?<g.m.hagedorn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Audubon Core.
>>
>> (and the abbreviation could be AC)
>>
>> Gregor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Audubon Core?
Acronym is tricky though. ADBC is acronym of major new nsf initiative
Advancing Digitization of Biological Collections.
Bob
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On Nov 15, 2010 8:52 AM, "Gregor Hagedorn" <g.m.hagedorn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I dislike the mermaids. Also nobody explained what the d stand for...
is it the Data inside metadata?
How about calling it
HaeckelCore
(Ernst Haeckel, famous biological scientist and illustrator, also a
German, I admit)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Haeckelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunstformen_der_Natur
may be the most famous English illustrator instead?
Gregor
