no meeting for me - working on the MS
Dear all,
Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. *Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments. *
One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably.
I do not think we need to meet today, but the *link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter.* Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic.
All the best,
Yani
Hi All,
Based on discussions last week and the comments left by Dmitry regarding the title and audience for this manuscript, it is hard to orient the paper until we have a consensus on the audience
I favor trying to reach a broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data rather than the data managers who are likely to use the Humboldt core.
To that end, the paper should announces the accomplishment of the new standard
Something such as
GBIF moves beyond archiving presence-only data: Capturing the scope and effort of surveys and inventories
Thoughts about the orientation of the paper?
Suggestions for titles?
Rob
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. *Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments. *
One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably.
I do not think we need to meet today, but the *link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter.* Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic.
All the best,
Yani _______________________________________________ tdwg-humboldt mailing list -- tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org To unsubscribe send an email to tdwg-humboldt-leave@lists.tdwg.org
Kate is working on a data publishing guide for Humboldt Extension so I think the audience should surely be on "broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data." Just my 2 quick cents (maybe it is 1 cent in this case?)
[cid:12eb7738-67be-4640-b280-b5f5d8308ad4] ________________________________ From: Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:08 AM To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org Cc: Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com steve.baskauf@gmail.com Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
[External Email] Hi All,
Based on discussions last week and the comments left by Dmitry regarding the title and audience for this manuscript, it is hard to orient the paper until we have a consensus on the audience
I favor trying to reach a broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data rather than the data managers who are likely to use the Humboldt core.
To that end, the paper should announces the accomplishment of the new standard
Something such as
GBIF moves beyond archiving presence-only data: Capturing the scope and effort of surveys and inventories
Thoughts about the orientation of the paper?
Suggestions for titles?
Rob
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@gmail.commailto:yanina.sica@gmail.com> wrote: Dear all,
Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (herehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments.
One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably.
I do not think we need to meet today, but the link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter. Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic.
All the best,
Yani _______________________________________________ tdwg-humboldt mailing list -- tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org To unsubscribe send an email to tdwg-humboldt-leave@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt-leave@lists.tdwg.org
-- Robert D Stevenson Associate Professor Department of Biology UMass Boston
Hi all,
I believe the whole purpose of writing a paper about the extension is to reach the scientific community and not necessarily the data managers (we can use other channels for this community) so* let's keep scientists as our audience*! Feel free to add options for titles! I would not use GBIF in the title because GBIF is just another user of standards (a big one).
I will not be able to meet this week. I am at COP16 and my talk about standards and the Humbodt Extension went really well, we got some nice questions.
I "assigned" sections of the MS to some of you in the Google doc, do you get those notifications?
Let's keep writing this great paper together here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.pnvd9idaqs35
Yani
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:19 PM Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu wrote:
Kate is working on a data publishing guide for Humboldt Extension so I think the audience should surely be on "broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data." Just my 2 quick cents (maybe it is 1 cent in this case?)
*From:* Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:08 AM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com < steve.baskauf@gmail.com> *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
*[External Email]* Hi All,
Based on discussions last week and the comments left by Dmitry regarding the title and audience for this manuscript, it is hard to orient the paper until we have a consensus on the audience
I favor trying to reach a broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data rather than the data managers who are likely to use the Humboldt core.
To that end, the paper should announces the accomplishment of the new standard
Something such as
GBIF moves beyond archiving presence-only data: Capturing the scope and effort of surveys and inventories
Thoughts about the orientation of the paper?
Suggestions for titles?
Rob
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. *Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments. *
One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably.
I do not think we need to meet today, but the *link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter.* Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic.
All the best,
Yani _______________________________________________ tdwg-humboldt mailing list -- tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org To unsubscribe send an email to tdwg-humboldt-leave@lists.tdwg.org
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HE paper is certianly bigger than GBIF (GBIF should not be in the title imho)
Look what I found, too, did anybody read these?
Bledsoe Ellen K., Burant Joseph B., Higino Gracielle T., Roche Dominique G., Binning Sandra A., Finlay Kerri, Pither Jason, Pollock Laura S., Sunday Jennifer M. and Srivastava Diane S. 2022. Data rescue: saving environmental data from extinction. Proc. R. Soc. B.28920220938 http://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2022.0938
Roche DG, Berberi I, Dhane F, Lauzon F, Soeharjono S, Dakin R, Binning SA. 2022 Slow improvements to the archiving quality of open datasets in evolution and ecology. Proc. R. Soc. B 289, 20212780. (doi:10. 1098/rspb.2021.2780)
Roche DG, Kruuk LEB, Lanfear R, Binning SA (2015) Public Data Archiving in Ecology and Evolution: How Well Are We Doing? PLoS Biol 13 (11): e1002295. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.1002295
From: Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu Sent: Wednesday, 16 October, 2024 15:19 To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org Cc: Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
Kate is working on a data publishing guide for Humboldt Extension so I think the audience should surely be on "broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data." Just my 2 quick cents (maybe it is 1 cent in this case?)
[cid:image001.png@01DB23C5.2DF67E60] ________________________________ From: Rob Stevenson <rdstevenson10@gmail.commailto:rdstevenson10@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:08 AM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> Cc: Wesley M. Hochachka <wmh6@cornell.edumailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>; steve.baskauf@gmail.commailto:steve.baskauf@gmail.com <steve.baskauf@gmail.commailto:steve.baskauf@gmail.com> Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
[External Email] Hi All,
Based on discussions last week and the comments left by Dmitry regarding the title and audience for this manuscript, it is hard to orient the paper until we have a consensus on the audience
I favor trying to reach a broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data rather than the data managers who are likely to use the Humboldt core.
To that end, the paper should announces the accomplishment of the new standard
Something such as
GBIF moves beyond archiving presence-only data: Capturing the scope and effort of surveys and inventories
Thoughts about the orientation of the paper?
Suggestions for titles?
Rob
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@gmail.commailto:yanina.sica@gmail.com> wrote: Dear all,
Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (herehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments.
One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably.
I do not think we need to meet today, but the link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter. Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic.
All the best,
Yani _______________________________________________ tdwg-humboldt mailing list -- tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org To unsubscribe send an email to tdwg-humboldt-leave@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt-leave@lists.tdwg.org
-- Robert D Stevenson Associate Professor Department of Biology UMass Boston
Hi all,
Am I correct that we are not having meetings at the moment, unless they are flagged in advance on email? I tried logging in at 2 pm the last few weeks, without seeing anyone - although John and I did have a useful 1-to-1 meeting one time. :)
@Dmitry: yes, I've read a couple of those. Dominique Roche has been doing a lot of work in this area.
See you all next week, perhaps!
Ani
On 28/10/2024 20:03, Dmitry Schigel wrote:
HE paper is certianly bigger than GBIF (GBIF should not be in the title imho)
Look what I found, too, did anybody read these?
Bledsoe Ellen K., Burant Joseph B., Higino Gracielle T., Roche Dominique G., Binning Sandra A., Finlay Kerri, Pither Jason, Pollock Laura S., Sunday Jennifer M. and Srivastava Diane S. 2022. Data rescue: saving environmental data from extinction. Proc. R. Soc. B.28920220938 http://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2022.0938
Roche DG, Berberi I, Dhane F, Lauzon F, Soeharjono S, Dakin R, Binning SA. 2022 Slow improvements to the archiving quality of open datasets in evolution and ecology. Proc. R. Soc. B 289, 20212780. (doi:10. 1098/rspb.2021.2780)
Roche DG, Kruuk LEB, Lanfear R, Binning SA (2015) Public Data Archiving in Ecology and Evolution: How Well Are We Doing? PLoS Biol 13 (11): e1002295. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.1002295
*From:*Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 October, 2024 15:19 *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
Kate is working on a data publishing guide for Humboldt Extension so I think the audience should surely be on "broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data." Just my 2 quick cents (maybe it is 1 cent in this case?)
*From:*Rob Stevenson <rdstevenson10@gmail.com mailto:rdstevenson10@gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:08 AM *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka <wmh6@cornell.edu mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>; steve.baskauf@gmail.com mailto:steve.baskauf@gmail.com<steve.baskauf@gmail.com mailto:steve.baskauf@gmail.com> *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
*[External Email]*
Hi All,
Based on discussions last week and the comments left by Dmitry regarding the title and audience for this manuscript, it is hard to orient the paper until we have a consensus on the audience
I favor trying to reach a broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data rather than the data managers who are likely to use the Humboldt core.
To that end, the paper should announces the accomplishment of the new standard
Something such as
GBIF moves beyond archiving presence-only data: Capturing the scope and effort of surveys and inventories
Thoughts about the orientation of the paper?
Suggestions for titles?
Rob
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@gmail.com mailto:yanina.sica@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all, Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (here <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0>). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. *Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments. * One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably. I do not think we need to meet today, but the *link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter.* Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic. All the best, Yani _______________________________________________ tdwg-humboldt mailing list -- tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org <mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> To unsubscribe send an email to tdwg-humboldt-leave@lists.tdwg.org <mailto:tdwg-humboldt-leave@lists.tdwg.org>--
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Data Steward & Biodiversity Informatics Scientist
Data & Code Unit (iBID / iBON) German Centre for Integrative Biodiversity Research (iDiv) Halle-Jena-Leipzig |www.idiv.de
Department of Informatics Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena
anahita.kazem@idiv.de | Puschstraße 4 | D-04103 Leipzig | Germany
Yes, Ani! I am still in COP 16 in Colombia so not many advances on my end. I will send you an email when I advance more with the manuscript. Everybody is welcome to edit the draft! Cheers!
Yani
On Wed 30. Oct 2024 at 08:34, Anahita Kazem Anahita.Kazem@idiv.de wrote:
Hi all,
Am I correct that we are not having meetings at the moment, unless they are flagged in advance on email? I tried logging in at 2 pm the last few weeks, without seeing anyone - although John and I did have a useful 1-to-1 meeting one time. :)
@Dmitry: yes, I've read a couple of those. Dominique Roche has been doing a lot of work in this area.
See you all next week, perhaps!
Ani
On 28/10/2024 20:03, Dmitry Schigel wrote:
HE paper is certianly bigger than GBIF (GBIF should not be in the title imho)
Look what I found, too, did anybody read these?
Bledsoe Ellen K., Burant Joseph B., Higino Gracielle T., Roche Dominique G., Binning Sandra A., Finlay Kerri, Pither Jason, Pollock Laura S., Sunday Jennifer M. and Srivastava Diane S. 2022. Data rescue: saving environmental data from extinction. Proc. R. Soc. B.28920220938 http://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2022.0938
Roche DG, Berberi I, Dhane F, Lauzon F, Soeharjono S, Dakin R, Binning SA. 2022 Slow improvements to the archiving quality of open datasets in evolution and ecology. Proc. R. Soc. B 289, 20212780. (doi:10. 1098/rspb.2021.2780)
Roche DG, Kruuk LEB, Lanfear R, Binning SA (2015) Public Data Archiving in Ecology and Evolution: How Well Are We Doing? PLoS Biol 13 (11): e1002295. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.1002295
*From:* Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 October, 2024 15:19 *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
Kate is working on a data publishing guide for Humboldt Extension so I think the audience should surely be on "broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data." Just my 2 quick cents (maybe it is 1 cent in this case?)
*From:* Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:08 AM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com < steve.baskauf@gmail.com> *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
*[External Email]*
Hi All,
Based on discussions last week and the comments left by Dmitry regarding the title and audience for this manuscript, it is hard to orient the paper until we have a consensus on the audience
I favor trying to reach a broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data rather than the data managers who are likely to use the Humboldt core.
To that end, the paper should announces the accomplishment of the new standard
Something such as
GBIF moves beyond archiving presence-only data: Capturing the scope and effort of surveys and inventories
Thoughts about the orientation of the paper?
Suggestions for titles?
Rob
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. *Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments. *
One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably.
I do not think we need to meet today, but the *link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter.* Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic.
All the best,
Yani
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Data & Code Unit (iBID / iBON) German Centre for Integrative Biodiversity Research (iDiv) Halle-Jena-Leipzig | www.idiv.de
Department of Informatics Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena anahita.kazem@idiv.de | Puschstraße 4 | D-04103 Leipzig | Germany https://www.google.com/maps/search/Puschstra%C3%9Fe+4++%7C++D-04103+Leipzig++%7C++Germany?entry=gmail&source=g
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Hi everyone,
I hope that COP16 went well for those of you who attended. Just sharing a quick update that I will be out for the next month. Rapid Inventory 32 gets underway this weekend and I'll be joining the team in the field, so I won't have much access to internet. I made a few adjustments to my section of the implementation, and I'm happy to work on it more when I'm back.
Thanks, Zach
On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 9:05 AM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, Ani! I am still in COP 16 in Colombia so not many advances on my end. I will send you an email when I advance more with the manuscript. Everybody is welcome to edit the draft! Cheers!
Yani
On Wed 30. Oct 2024 at 08:34, Anahita Kazem Anahita.Kazem@idiv.de wrote:
Hi all,
Am I correct that we are not having meetings at the moment, unless they are flagged in advance on email? I tried logging in at 2 pm the last few weeks, without seeing anyone - although John and I did have a useful 1-to-1 meeting one time. :)
@Dmitry: yes, I've read a couple of those. Dominique Roche has been doing a lot of work in this area.
See you all next week, perhaps!
Ani
On 28/10/2024 20:03, Dmitry Schigel wrote:
HE paper is certianly bigger than GBIF (GBIF should not be in the title imho)
Look what I found, too, did anybody read these?
Bledsoe Ellen K., Burant Joseph B., Higino Gracielle T., Roche Dominique G., Binning Sandra A., Finlay Kerri, Pither Jason, Pollock Laura S., Sunday Jennifer M. and Srivastava Diane S. 2022. Data rescue: saving environmental data from extinction. Proc. R. Soc. B.28920220938 http://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2022.0938
Roche DG, Berberi I, Dhane F, Lauzon F, Soeharjono S, Dakin R, Binning SA. 2022 Slow improvements to the archiving quality of open datasets in evolution and ecology. Proc. R. Soc. B 289, 20212780. (doi:10. 1098/rspb.2021.2780)
Roche DG, Kruuk LEB, Lanfear R, Binning SA (2015) Public Data Archiving in Ecology and Evolution: How Well Are We Doing? PLoS Biol 13 (11): e1002295. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.1002295
*From:* Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 October, 2024 15:19 *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
Kate is working on a data publishing guide for Humboldt Extension so I think the audience should surely be on "broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data." Just my 2 quick cents (maybe it is 1 cent in this case?)
*From:* Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:08 AM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com < steve.baskauf@gmail.com> *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
*[External Email]*
Hi All,
Based on discussions last week and the comments left by Dmitry regarding the title and audience for this manuscript, it is hard to orient the paper until we have a consensus on the audience
I favor trying to reach a broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data rather than the data managers who are likely to use the Humboldt core.
To that end, the paper should announces the accomplishment of the new standard
Something such as
GBIF moves beyond archiving presence-only data: Capturing the scope and effort of surveys and inventories
Thoughts about the orientation of the paper?
Suggestions for titles?
Rob
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. *Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments. *
One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably.
I do not think we need to meet today, but the *link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter.* Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic.
All the best,
Yani
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Hope the field work and data collection go well for the team.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 8:00 PM Zachary Kachian zkachian@fieldmuseum.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
I hope that COP16 went well for those of you who attended. Just sharing a quick update that I will be out for the next month. Rapid Inventory 32 gets underway this weekend and I'll be joining the team in the field, so I won't have much access to internet. I made a few adjustments to my section of the implementation, and I'm happy to work on it more when I'm back.
Thanks, Zach
On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 9:05 AM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, Ani! I am still in COP 16 in Colombia so not many advances on my end. I will send you an email when I advance more with the manuscript. Everybody is welcome to edit the draft! Cheers!
Yani
On Wed 30. Oct 2024 at 08:34, Anahita Kazem Anahita.Kazem@idiv.de wrote:
Hi all,
Am I correct that we are not having meetings at the moment, unless they are flagged in advance on email? I tried logging in at 2 pm the last few weeks, without seeing anyone - although John and I did have a useful 1-to-1 meeting one time. :)
@Dmitry: yes, I've read a couple of those. Dominique Roche has been doing a lot of work in this area.
See you all next week, perhaps!
Ani
On 28/10/2024 20:03, Dmitry Schigel wrote:
HE paper is certianly bigger than GBIF (GBIF should not be in the title imho)
Look what I found, too, did anybody read these?
Bledsoe Ellen K., Burant Joseph B., Higino Gracielle T., Roche Dominique G., Binning Sandra A., Finlay Kerri, Pither Jason, Pollock Laura S., Sunday Jennifer M. and Srivastava Diane S. 2022. Data rescue: saving environmental data from extinction. Proc. R. Soc. B.28920220938 http://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2022.0938
Roche DG, Berberi I, Dhane F, Lauzon F, Soeharjono S, Dakin R, Binning SA. 2022 Slow improvements to the archiving quality of open datasets in evolution and ecology. Proc. R. Soc. B 289, 20212780. (doi:10. 1098/rspb.2021.2780)
Roche DG, Kruuk LEB, Lanfear R, Binning SA (2015) Public Data Archiving in Ecology and Evolution: How Well Are We Doing? PLoS Biol 13 (11): e1002295. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.1002295
*From:* Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 October, 2024 15:19 *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
Kate is working on a data publishing guide for Humboldt Extension so I think the audience should surely be on "broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data." Just my 2 quick cents (maybe it is 1 cent in this case?)
*From:* Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:08 AM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka wmh6@cornell.edu; steve.baskauf@gmail.com < steve.baskauf@gmail.com> *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Re: no meeting for me - working on the MS
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Hi All,
Based on discussions last week and the comments left by Dmitry regarding the title and audience for this manuscript, it is hard to orient the paper until we have a consensus on the audience
I favor trying to reach a broad audience of scientists who design studies and collect data rather than the data managers who are likely to use the Humboldt core.
To that end, the paper should announces the accomplishment of the new standard
Something such as
GBIF moves beyond archiving presence-only data: Capturing the scope and effort of surveys and inventories
Thoughts about the orientation of the paper?
Suggestions for titles?
Rob
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
Last week we had a great meeting where we discussed the advances on the HE manuscript (here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7RRu6mj7u53-zz6c_8ZIYqLsNMA0o6VwP3fuSTMWcI/edit?tab=t.0). We are still working on this first draft, in particular, we are still drafting the discussion and the figures. I will start assigning some sections for you to review or write from scratch. *Please let me know if you do not feel comfortable with these assignments. *
One key item that we discussed is that we would like to switch the terminology to 'surveys'. This would be the main way to refer to a sampling event. Although 'inventory' and 'sampling' will also be used along the text. Somewhere we will need to add a paragraph saying that we will use the terms interchangeably.
I do not think we need to meet today, but the *link is open and feel free to use it to discuss any particular matter.* Thanks, John for those great visuals on the events, I encourage you to meet and keep discussing this topic.
All the best,
Yani
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Data Steward & Biodiversity Informatics Scientist
Data & Code Unit (iBID / iBON) German Centre for Integrative Biodiversity Research (iDiv) Halle-Jena-Leipzig | www.idiv.de
Department of Informatics Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena anahita.kazem@idiv.de | Puschstraße 4 | D-04103 Leipzig | Germany https://www.google.com/maps/search/Puschstra%C3%9Fe+4++%7C++D-04103+Leipzig++%7C++Germany?entry=gmail&source=g
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