[tdwg-tapir] FAQ page

Donald Hobern dhobern at gbif.org
Fri Jan 13 11:46:46 CET 2006


Markus,

I think we should be able to use RDF Schema and OWL to produce data exchange
formats which look very similar (perhaps identical) to e.g. Darwin Core or
individual sections of ABCD today, but which will give us a semantic
framework that is not possible with XML Schema.  Under those circumstances
TAPIR should remain the preferred protocol for efficient searches for data
objects via their properties/concepts.  I personally see TAPIR and RDF (or
at least OWL Lite) fitting very well together.

Chuck is right that we need to produce a clear glossary/roadmap document
that explains all of these things properly.  I realise that it must all seem
very disordered right now.  I really believe though that we've managed to
find a fairly smooth path to bring the DiGIR and BioCASe protocols together
and to establish a key piece of the jigsaw that TDWG needs to put together.

Donald
 
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:tdwg-tapir-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of "Döring, Markus"
Sent: 13 January 2006 11:27
To: Chuck.Miller at mobot.org; tdwg-tapir at lists.tdwg.org
Cc: Berendsohn, Walter G.
Subject: Re: [tdwg-tapir] FAQ page

Chuck,
from the BioCASE side I can add the following:

BioCASE
-------
BioCASE is a European project and its also the name of the protocol
(sometimes written as BioCASe).
The BioCASE portal (software) is referred to simply as the BioCASE portal.
The core of the BioCASE provider software (BPS) is called PyWrapper. This
wrapper understands the BioCASE protocol, but also the Species2000/SPICE
protocol. So you can use it to serve data in ABCD, SPICE/Species2000,
DarwinCore, MCPDH, NaturalCollectionMetadata (NCD) or nearly any other XML
standard with some limitations (unfortunately used by SDD).

TAPIR
------
TAPIR refers only to the protocol. The primary goal of TAPIR is the
unification of DiGIR and BioCASE, thus replacing them so that data providers
and clients can access our data in the same way. 
There is a full TAPIR provider software available based on the PyWrapper
which is called TAPIR PyWrapper. 
There is no TAPIR portal yet or any other client application for TAPIR.

RDF
----
In many discussions currently RDF is considered a better way to share our
data. To fully go the RDF way we would have to migrate the TDWG XML schema
standards to some sort of RDF schema or ontology. There is still a
performance problem with RDF if used with millions of records (equivalent to
maybe hundreds of millions of rdf statements). So I dont see RDF being used
right now in full production, but its surely a promising way to go.


Personally I am a bit concerned we are about to split the community again -
this time into TAPIR and RDF; but maybe thats how technological progress is
made...


regards,
Markus





-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: tdwg-tapir-bounces at lists.tdwg.org
[mailto:tdwg-tapir-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] Im Auftrag von Dave Vieglais
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Januar 2006 16:03
An: Javier privat
Cc: tdwg-tapir at lists.tdwg.org
Betreff: Re: [tdwg-tapir] FAQ page

Much of the confusion has come about I guess because DiGIR 2 is actually a
code name for a project that is building a data service application that
supports pluggable protocols.  There is no official name for that
application, and there is no release (yet).

So to try and help things a little:

DiGIR 2 is a data server application, not a protocol.  The application
supports multiple protocols for accessing the data it serves including:

* DiGIR 1.5 (i.e. the current version of DiGIR)
* TAPIR (may not be a full implementation)
* WFS (OGC Web Feature Service)
* possibly SPARQL (an RDF query language)

DiGIR 2 data server is being developed because we do not yet feel that there
is a single unifying protocol for our community, and that new protocols may
emerge and then different versions of the protocols will be developed.
Having a single data service application that supports pluggable protocols
will, we hope, significantly reduce the maintenance and configuration
overhead of those interested in serving their data, since one the
application is installed, we expect it to be a relatively trivial matter to
add protocols or updates to existing protocols.

We will provide more information about the project as updates become
available.

regards,
   Dave Vieglais

Javier de la Torre said the following on 1/12/2006 8:23 AM:
> Dear all,
> 
> We had today the GBIF ICT Expert Group meeting and a lot of people 
> where making questions about TAPIR.
> Seems that there is confusion regarding names. People were asking why 
> there is Digir 2 if we are all going to TAPIR and things like that.
> There were also questions regarding when things are gonna be ready, 
> what can we expect from Digir2 and TAPIR pywrapper and what would be 
> the reasons to migrate, how difficult is going to be to migrate, etc.
> 
> I was thinking of extending the FAQ page that Renato started in Madrid 
> to answer all these questions, but I need some help specially from the 
> Digir2 people.
> 
> -What is the status of Digir2?
> -Is it going to be difficult to update from Digir 1 to 2?
> 
> I will in any case start writing there and maybe you can then modify 
> extend thins related to you.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Javi.
> 
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