AW: Topic 3: GUIDs for Taxon Names and Taxon Concepts

[Roger Hyam]

Yde,

Could you say which articles in the code (http://www.iczn.org/iczn/)
support the usage examples you are giving here.

My understanding of this is that it is a matter of presentation within
publications and not a matter of different use of the nomenclatural
codes. The authors are simply assuming that the specific epithets are
well enough known (in combination with the author string) for them not
to have to quote the genus part of the binomial. It seems to me to be
merely a presentation convention like abbreviating the genus name to a
single letter.

If it is significantly different way of treating names (and therefore
relevant to the GUID debate) why isn't in the code? Perhaps we should
approach the ICZN 2000 editorial committee for their comments? But this
would definitely be outside the scope of GUIDs and should perhaps be
moved to a different list.

Quoting article numbers nearly always clarifies these debates.

Hope this helps,

Roger



On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:31:19 +0100, Yde de Jong <yjong at SCIENCE.UVA.NL> wrote:

 >Dear Robert,
 >
 >What I mean is that most entomologists will
 >summarize a taxonomic treatment like:
 >
 >Eupogodon spinellus (C.Agardh 1827)
 >
 >† Dasya spinella C.Agardh 1827
 >= Dasyopsis spinella (C.Agardh 1827)
 >= Dasya cervicornis J.Agardh 1841
 >= Dasyopsis cervicornis (J.Agardh 1841)
 >= Eupogodon cervicornis (J.Agardh 1841)
 >= Gigartina flabellata Schousboe 1892
 >= Larnacea flabellata (Schousboe 1892)
 >= Eupogodon flabellatus (Schousboe 1892)
 >
 >‰ Dasya acanthophora Montagne 1840
 >‰ Rodonema spinella Naccari 1828
 >‰ Eupogonium spinellum Kützing 1879
 >
 >--------
 >
 >....in either this way:
 >
 >Eupogodon Kützing 1845
 >= Dasyopsis Zanardini 1843
 >
 >Eupogodon spinellus (C.Agardh 1827) - originally in Dasya
 >= cervicornis J.Agardh 1841 - originally in Dasya
 >= flabellata Schousboe 1892 - originally in Gigartina
 >
 >
 >....or this way:
 >
 >Eupogodon Kützing
 >= Dasyopsis Zanardini
 >
 >Eupogodon spinellus (C.Agardh)
 >† Dasya spinella C.Agardh
 >= Dasya cervicornis J.Agardh 1841
 >= Gigartina flabellata Schousboe 1892
 >
 >
 >And when some generic names are frequently
 >associated with certain species-group names
 >within a genus also:
 >
 >Eupogodon Kützing
 >= Dasyopsis Zanardini
 >= Gigartina auct.
 >= Larnacea auct.
 >
 >Eupogodon spinellus (C.Agardh)
 >† Dasya spinella C.Agardh
 >= Dasya cervicornis J.Agardh 1841
 >= Gigartina flabellata Schousboe 1892
 >
 >
 >Kind regards,
 >
 >Yde
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >>Dear Yde,
 >>
 >>>I have to check if the TCS can deal with
 >>>objective synonymy in a zoological sense.
 >>>Species2000 for instance can't not deal either
 >>>with objective synonymy nor with basionyms and
 >>>is therefore missing a crucial part of
 >>>information.
 >>
 >>Just asking: What exactly do you mean with 'objectice sysnonymy in
 >>zoological sense' ?
 >>
 >>regards,
 >>Robert Huber
 >


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