[tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 11 April 2023, 08:00 EST/13:00 UTC
Zachary Kachian
zkachian at fieldmuseum.org
Wed Apr 12 01:55:27 UTC 2023
Hi everyone,
I will not be able to attend tomorrow, but I'm excited that we're getting
close! Thank you all for the hard work and let me know if anything comes up
that I can help with.
Zach
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 2:41 PM ys628 <yanina.sica at yale.edu> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> *Thank you so much Wesley for last week's summary and everybody for
> advancing with the report!*
>
> Here
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RFdSHoyzWCQk9qO6uup4xQjWOMzPyBb-A0mcjj98hbk/edit#heading=h.8dmewb9wxxbk>
> is the latest version of the report.
>
> John and I have also been discussing the term
> *isLeastSpecificTargetCategoryQuantityInclusive.* *There was a confusion
> between the previous name (sumQuantities) and the current name (*
> *isLeastSpecificTargetCategoryQuantityInclusive)* because when
> sumQuantities is TRUE then isLeastSpecificTargetCategoryQuantityInclusive
> is FALSE. For example, in eBird, where ebird_target_1 (H. rustica, did not
> include the subspecies), we have to add organismQuantity to get the total detected
> quantity for the Taxon (H rustica at the species level). Or the opposite,
> for OBIS, where bw_target_3 (E. antarctica without lifestage distinction) is
> inclusive of the more specific lifeStage targets (is already the sum of
> organismQuantity for lava and postmeta) so we cannot add organismQuantity
> to get the total detected quantity for the Taxon (E. antarctica without
> lifestage distinction). *Now, this is resolved, please take a look at
> this new definition/comments:*
>
> - *Term name*: isLeastSpecificTargetCategoryQuantityInclusive
> - *Definition*: The total detected quantity of Organisms for a
> Taxon in an Event is given explicitly in a single record (dwc:organismQuantity
> value) for that Taxon.
> - *Comments*: "Recommended values are 'true' and 'false'. If
> 'true', the dwc:organismQuantity values for a Taxon in an Event is
> inclusive of all Organisms of the Taxon (including more specific scopes
> such as different life stages or lower taxonomic ranks) and the total
> detected quantity of Organisms for that Taxon in the Event cannot be
> determined by summing the dwc:organismQuantity values for the Taxon in the
> Event. Instead, the total detected quantity of Organisms for the Taxon in
> an Event would have to be reported in a single record for the Taxon in the
> Event that had no further specific scopes. In this case the sum of
> dwc:organismQuantity values for the reported subsets of the Taxon must not
> exceed the value of dwc:organismQuantity for the single record for the
> Taxon without subsets (i.e., the total). If 'false', the
> dwc:organismQuantity values for a Taxon in an Event can be added to get the
> total detected quantity of Organisms for that Taxon in the Event. For
> example, suppose there are three records with dwc:organismQuantity for a
> Taxon for an Event. One record is for adults of the Taxon with
> dwc:organismQuantity = 1 and dwc:organismQuantityUnit = 'individuals', one
> record is for juveniles of the Taxon with dwc:organismQuantity = 2 and
> dwc:organismQuantityUnit = 'individuals', and one record is for the Taxon
> without specifying the lifeStage and with dwc:organismQuantity = 4 and
> dwc:organismQuantityUnit = 'individuals'. If
> isLeastSpecificTargetCategoryQuantityInclusive is 'true', the total number
> of individuals of the Taxon for the Event is 4 (the least specific Taxon
> record - the one with no more specific scopes - includes all individuals of
> the Taxon). This means there was 1 adult, 2 juveniles and 1 individual
> whose lifeStage was not recorded. If
> isLeastSpecificTargetCategoryQuantityInclusive is 'false', the total number
> of individuals of the Taxon for the Event is 7 (the least specific Taxon
> record - the one with no more specific scopes - does not include all
> individuals of the Taxon, rather, it is a separate category that must also
> be added to get the total). This means there was 1 adult, 2 juveniles and 4
> individuals whose lifeStage was not recorded. This term is only relevant if
> dwc:organismQuantity is a number.
> - We could point to the DwC definition of Taxon
> <http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Taxon> == A group of organisms
> (sensu http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/OBI_0100026) considered by
> taxonomists to form a homogeneous unit. *Should we do this
> adding dwc:Taxon? or since it is a class adding the nameSpace is not
> correct. *
> -
>
> Tomorrow, we can discuss this term, review the report and assign the next
> step (public review??)😁
>
> All the best!
>
> Yani
>
>
>
> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
> Lead Data Team
> Map of Life <https://mol.org/> | Center for Biodiversity and Global Change
> <https://bgc.yale.edu/>
> Yale University
> pronouns: she/her/hers
> *If you are receiving this email outside of your working hours, I am not
> expecting you to read or respond.*
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Wesley M. Hochachka <wmh6 at cornell.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 5, 2023 10:15 AM
> *To:* ys628 <yanina.sica at yale.edu>; Humboldt Core TG <
> tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Humboldt Task Group: Please review implementation report
>
> Hi Yani,
>
> First, while I am trying to send this message to the Humboldt Core
> group in TDWG, I suspect that it will bounce, so could you forward the
> contents of the message to the group? Anyway...
>
> Ming, Zach, Steve and I met today, and here's a brief summary of what
> we discussed:
>
> - regarding the term *isLeastSpecificTargetCategoryQuantityInclusive*,
> we agreed that we should keep this name, which is a clear description of
> the intend of the term even though it's long. There did not seem to be an
> obvious way to substantially shorten the term and still maintain clarity of
> meaning. If there are comments during public review, then we can always
> revisit the name, but for now it did not seem worth holding up the process
> of going to public review in order to try to find a better alternative to
> the current name.
> - Also regarding this term, we discussed that its Definition and
> Comments need a little more work, mostly or entirely associated with the
> use of "Taxon", which currently is used in a way that means that organisms
> of different sexes or age classes below to different taxa. I'll try to
> create time before next Wednesday to suggest changes to wording, and I
> believe that Ming will look at the Definition and Comments as well.
> - We also discussed the Implementation Report, and none of us felt
> that there were any topics missing from the current version (thanks for all
> of the work that you put into the report!).
> - Personally, I am still wondering whether I will suggest one or two
> additional minor changes. You should assume that if I make any changes,
> then I will have made these changes before next Wednesday. I don't want to
> get in the way of wrapping up work on the report.
>
> There, I think that's a complete summary of our discussions today. Let me
> know if you have any questions!
>
> Wesley
>
>
>
> *******************
> Wesley Hochachka
> Senior Research Associate
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
> ph. (607) 254-2484
> *******************
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* ys628 <yanina.sica at yale.edu>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 20:56
> *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>; Wesley M.
> Hochachka <wmh6 at cornell.edu>
> *Subject:* Humboldt Task Group: Please review implementation report
>
> Dear all,
>
> We have made a lot of progress with the Implementation report. *Please
> have a look and edit here
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RFdSHoyzWCQk9qO6uup4xQjWOMzPyBb-A0mcjj98hbk/edit#heading=h.u3r7un3jbl3s>*
> *.*
>
> *I would like to thank Wesley, Ming, Zach and Steve for pushing this
> forward! I really appreciate it!*
>
> Here is a brief description of the document, the goal is to convince TDWG
> people that this extension is useful an that it would work!
> - *Authors *will include the people writing the report and participating
> in the testing (we may even publish this as a paper in BISS)
> - *Introduction and background* will be the basis of the Feature report
> as it already includes the rationale behind building this extension. This
> means that this Implementation report will include the information needed
> in the Feature report. For more info on TDWG required documents see here:
> http://rs.tdwg.org/vms/doc/specification/#421-feature-report
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://rs.tdwg.org/vms/doc/specification/%23421-feature-report&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1680098196850728&usg=AOvVaw3MkAtmG8IRHVETy2hJFn4L>
> - *Development of the vocabulary* includes some description of what is
> considered an inventory, a basic description of the terms, and a link to
> the final table with the terms
> - *Use cases* will include a description of the datasets and how the
> mapping was done
> - *Lessons learned *will include all the challenges identified during the
> mapping and testing that were addressed using the Humboldt extension
> - *Unresolved issues/remaining challenges* will include all the
> challenges identified during the mapping and testing that were NOT
> addressed using the Humboldt extension
> - *Conclusions* will be some sort of summary stating that we are ready to
> go to public review
>
> *I will not be able to join our next meeting, but it would be great if you
> can meet and discuss how the document is looking otherwise please take the
> time to review the document. *The sooner we finish this the faster we can
> start the public review.
>
> We also need to review the documentation and the list of terms
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AbUUKDkgilbtHu9Dh_5V2dnOeQNbKBcRo4d7VEDyqOg/edit#gid=697606170>
> that will accompany the implementation report. I would also ask you to
> discuss line 41 of that sheet.
>
>
> Hope everybody is good and we got this!
>
> All the best!
>
>
>
> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
> Lead Data Team
> Map of Life <https://mol.org/> | Center for Biodiversity and Global Change
> <https://bgc.yale.edu/>
> Yale University
> pronouns: she/her/hers
> *If you are receiving this email outside of your working hours, I am not
> expecting you to read or respond.*
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