[tdwg-content] New term needs resolution: yearOfPublication

Wed Jul 20 09:46:52 CEST 2011

for the entire publication we have the term dwc:namePublishedIn. 
Would maybe dwc:namePublishedInYear make it clearer?

Markus

On Jul 15, 2011, at 2:11, Jim Croft wrote:

> As a general comment, not necessarily restriced to
> 'yearOfPublication', would using a general descriptive handle for a
> specific instance lead to confusion and constant clarification,
> elaboration and discussion down the line?
> 
> Would it not be better to come up with a new handle,
> taxonYearOfPublication or similar, if we want the value to have a
> particular meaning in a particular context?
> 
> Things like yearOfPublication look like a general term and most users
> might reasonably expect to be able to use it in a general context.
> 
> In this particular situation the year of publication is almost
> certainly going to be a 4-digit number, as it would be for any other
> kind of publication. Is there any value in drawing a distinction
> between the year in which a taxon was published and the same year in
> which a book, journal, blog, email, tweet was published?
> 
> At the end of the day, it is just a year... [groan]
> 
> jim
> 
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Kevin Richards
> <RichardsK at landcareresearch.co.nz> wrote:
>> The intention was for use specifically with a taxon name, i.e. not a generic term.
>> Personally I think it would be better to be specific to a taxon name object, otherwise it has less meaning.  But I'm not sure.
>> 
>> yearOfPublication is just what we call it here at Landcare, perhaps there is a better term, but I think if you have applied yearOfPublication to a taxon name object, then it seems fairly obvious that this is the year of publication of the taxon name - no?
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter.desmet.cubc at gmail.com [mailto:peter.desmet.cubc at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Desmet
>> Sent: Friday, 15 July 2011 7:04 a.m.
>> To: Kevin Richards
>> Cc: tuco at berkeley.edu; TDWG Content Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] New term needs resolution: yearOfPublication
>> 
>> yearOfPublication is a very general term name, one I didn't
>> immediately connect to the publication year of a scientific name. Is
>> this intentional (in other words, can it be used for the
>> yearOfPublication of other things?) or should the name be more
>> descriptive?
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 09:29, Kevin Richards
>> <RichardsK at landcareresearch.co.nz> wrote:
>>> Ha. I had the same problem - first time I have had it - is there something
>>> dodgy about goo.gl sort links maybe.
>>> 
>>> I got around it by going to unshorten.com and unshortening it.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Peter Desmet" <peter.desmet at umontreal.ca>
>>> Date: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 12:46 pm
>>> Subject: [tdwg-content] New term needs resolution: yearOfPublication
>>> To: "tuco at berkeley.edu" <tuco at berkeley.edu>
>>> Cc: "TDWG Content Mailing List" <tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The shortlink http://goo.gl/8WkJa has been disabled (at least on my
>>> computer), can you include the full URL to the issue?
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 05:24, John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>> Looks like this one is off to a good start. If there is no dissenting
>>>> opinion in the next 30 days, it looks like it'll be included.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Peter DeVries <pete.devries at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I have something similar that I use for stating the year the species was
>>>>> described.
>>>>> This is useful for sorting by year etc.  So +1
>>>>> Note the datatype rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/v6n7p.html RDF http://10.10.10.122:3000/ses/v6n7p.rdf
>>>>>     <txn:yearDescribed
>>>>> 
>>>>> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear">1771</txn:yearDescribed>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ontology
>>>>>     <!-- http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#yearDescribed -->
>>>>>     <owl:DatatypeProperty
>>>>> rdf:about="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#yearDescribed">
>>>>>         <rdfs:label
>>>>> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear">yearDes
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