[tdwg-content] New term needs resolution: yearOfPublication

Jim Croft jim.croft at gmail.com
Fri Jul 15 02:11:02 CEST 2011


As a general comment, not necessarily restriced to
'yearOfPublication', would using a general descriptive handle for a
specific instance lead to confusion and constant clarification,
elaboration and discussion down the line?

Would it not be better to come up with a new handle,
taxonYearOfPublication or similar, if we want the value to have a
particular meaning in a particular context?

Things like yearOfPublication look like a general term and most users
might reasonably expect to be able to use it in a general context.

In this particular situation the year of publication is almost
certainly going to be a 4-digit number, as it would be for any other
kind of publication. Is there any value in drawing a distinction
between the year in which a taxon was published and the same year in
which a book, journal, blog, email, tweet was published?

At the end of the day, it is just a year... [groan]

jim

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Kevin Richards
<RichardsK at landcareresearch.co.nz> wrote:
> The intention was for use specifically with a taxon name, i.e. not a generic term.
> Personally I think it would be better to be specific to a taxon name object, otherwise it has less meaning.  But I'm not sure.
>
> yearOfPublication is just what we call it here at Landcare, perhaps there is a better term, but I think if you have applied yearOfPublication to a taxon name object, then it seems fairly obvious that this is the year of publication of the taxon name - no?
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter.desmet.cubc at gmail.com [mailto:peter.desmet.cubc at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Desmet
> Sent: Friday, 15 July 2011 7:04 a.m.
> To: Kevin Richards
> Cc: tuco at berkeley.edu; TDWG Content Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] New term needs resolution: yearOfPublication
>
> yearOfPublication is a very general term name, one I didn't
> immediately connect to the publication year of a scientific name. Is
> this intentional (in other words, can it be used for the
> yearOfPublication of other things?) or should the name be more
> descriptive?
>
> Peter
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 09:29, Kevin Richards
> <RichardsK at landcareresearch.co.nz> wrote:
>> Ha. I had the same problem - first time I have had it - is there something
>> dodgy about goo.gl sort links maybe.
>>
>> I got around it by going to unshorten.com and unshortening it.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Peter Desmet" <peter.desmet at umontreal.ca>
>> Date: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 12:46 pm
>> Subject: [tdwg-content] New term needs resolution: yearOfPublication
>> To: "tuco at berkeley.edu" <tuco at berkeley.edu>
>> Cc: "TDWG Content Mailing List" <tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org>
>>
>>
>> The shortlink http://goo.gl/8WkJa has been disabled (at least on my
>> computer), can you include the full URL to the issue?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 05:24, John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>> Looks like this one is off to a good start. If there is no dissenting
>>> opinion in the next 30 days, it looks like it'll be included.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Peter DeVries <pete.devries at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I have something similar that I use for stating the year the species was
>>>> described.
>>>> This is useful for sorting by year etc.  So +1
>>>> Note the datatype rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/v6n7p.html RDF http://10.10.10.122:3000/ses/v6n7p.rdf
>>>>     <txn:yearDescribed
>>>>
>>>> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear">1771</txn:yearDescribed>
>>>>
>>>> Ontology
>>>>     <!-- http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#yearDescribed -->
>>>>     <owl:DatatypeProperty
>>>> rdf:about="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#yearDescribed">
>>>>         <rdfs:label
>>>> rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#gYear">yearDes
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