[tdwg-content] What RDF is (Was Re: Idea for Discussion, Differentiating between "type's" of identifiers)

[Markus Döring]

I am wondering if this discussion and similar rdf, lsid topics should continue on tdwg-tag rather than tdwg-content. 
We might bore quite a few people...


On Oct 6, 2010, at 17:13, Peter DeVries wrote:

> Some people might find the N3 serialization useful.
> 
> It simply lists the subject, predicate and object followed by a period.
> 
> It is somewhat easier to interpret, and can be easy to make. You can even create this with apps like FileMaker Pro.
> 
> You can then take this N3 form and convert it to RDF using online tools or standard libraries.
> 
> Many if not most of the triple / quad stores can read in the n3 form directly.
> 
> Here is an example that links a species concept to a geographical location. (in both directions)
> 
> <http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/>  <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#hasExpectationOf>  <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species> .
> 
> <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species>  <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#isExpectedIn> <http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/> .
> 
> - Pete
> 
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Peter DeVries <pete.devries at gmail.com> wrote:
> >[...]
> > I think part of the problem we are having is that people are not recognizing
> > how different RDF is from straight XML.
> > ...
> 
> It's way worse than that.  RDF is not XML at all.  RDF/XML is merely a
> serialization of RDF  It's not even the most human readable
> serialization. In fact it is one of the \worst/ for humans who need to
> figure out what triples are actually in play.   It is so ubiquitous
> only because there are more tools that can process RDF/XML than any of
> the other RDF serialization syntaxes (syntices???).  The persistent
> myth that human readability is an advantage of XML pretty much ignores
> all the use cases that humans have for reading something. It's about
> as readable as Lisp. Indeed, a Lisp loving colleague said of XML on
> the occasion of its first W3 recommendation : "I get it.  It's Lisp
> with pointy brackets."
> 
> Bob
> 
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