[tdwg-content] [tdwg-tag] Inclusion of authorship in DwC scientificName: good or bad? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

["Markus Döring (GBIF)"]

having the full name AND the basic parts is quite useful sometimes...


On Nov 19, 2010, at 7:07, Tony.Rees at csiro.au wrote:

> Here's something a zoologist has written, though (Cavalier-Smith, 1993):
> 
> [Class] "Ebridea Lemmermann, 1901 emend. Deflandre, 1936 stat. nov. Loeblich III, 1970 orthog. emend."
> 
> I'm sure a parser will have fun deducing what of this forms the authority...
> 
> Cheers - Tony
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-content-
>> bounces at lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Jim Croft
>> Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 4:59 PM
>> To: Paul Murray
>> Cc: tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org List; "Markus Döring (GBIF)"
>> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] [tdwg-tag] Inclusion of authorship in DwC
>> scientificName: good or bad? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>> 
>> Just quickly Paul, botanist would *never* say Pinus L. pinus, or Pinus
>> pinus pinus L.  If we needed the author string (and I admit we grossly
>> overuse it where it is not necessary, probably becasue it makes things
>> look scientific and important) we would go for something like Pinus
>> patula (personWhoCreatedTheEpithet)
>> personWhoMovedTheEpithetIntoThisGenus.  For some inexplicable reason
>> zoologists throw away the parentheses and the stuff following.
>> 
>> For an autonum, from the Glossary in the 2006 botanical code, p. 484 "
>> autonym: ... specific epithet repeated without an author citation as
>> the final epithet in the name of ... an infraspecific taxon name that
>> included the type of the adopted, legitimate name of the ... species
>> ..."
>> 
>> Thus, if you wanted to render an autonymic name with author, it would
>> be something like:
>> Pinus patula authorString var. patula
>> The autonymic infraspecies epithet appears never to have an author;
>> the authorship is implied from the authorship of the species epithet.
>> 
>> jim
>> 
>> p.s. also, avoid modelling hybrids and hybrid formulae - therein lies
>> madness and putrifaction of the spirit...
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Paul Murray <pmurray at anbg.gov.au> wrote:
>>>        zoological -    Vombatus ursinus ursinus Mike
>>>        botanical - Pinus L. pinus
>> 
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