[tdwg-content] Relation of GNA to TDWG vocabularies

[Bob Morris]

Nobody disputes this, and your vision for #3 is beginning to emerge
(see, for example,
http://neurocommons.org/page/Ontological_term_broker  and the
drag-and-drop visual OWL ontology  editor
http://www.ihmc.us/groups/coe/ written on top of CMap. ). People are
also working on the integrated ontology life-cycle management systems
you require.  I think those will be here in 3-5 years, which is just
about the time needed to develop a good biodiversity ontology using a
community of volunteers.  Now if you could find us some Pharma to fund
it, maybe 2 years.  :-)

Bob


On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Lee Belbin <leebelbin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well stated Stan, but I'd add a third-
>
> 3. Effective tool/s for viewing (graph, sub-graph, tables, properties etc.),
> add/delete/modify with adaptable governance control (e.g., assigned management
> to sub-graph domains), annotate (with full logging of who did what, when and
> how...). This is in effect a collaboration tool.
>
> Until we have a tool (preferable to tools) that can be intuitive and effective
> for building, managing and deploying /exporting vocabs or ontologies, we will
> struggle with this socially and technically tough, but very necessary task. The
> social issues are the hardest, but an effective collaboration tool would be a
> big help.
>
> A tool that will be readily embraced  by #2 (the domain specialists) seems far
> more important than the tools I've seen so far that are embraced by #1 (e.g.
> Protégé).
>
> That we don't have a TDWG ontology is an increasing worry.
>
> Lee
>
> Lee Belbin
> Geospatial Team Leader
> Atlas of Living Australia
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Blum, Stan
> Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2010 9:43 AM
> To: tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org
> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] Relation of GNA to TDWG vocabularies
>
> Progress on the TDWG ontology seems to require:
>
> 1) one or more people with good sense of what can be done with ontologies, both
> in the near-term and long-term; and
> 2) one or more people who understand the way information is partitioned in this
> domain and how it could fit together.
>
> I think we have a lot of #2, but not many of #1.
>
> FYI, we have seed money to bring these categories together.
>
> -Stan
>
>
> On 11/12/10 2:25 PM, "Bob Morris" <morris.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Richard Pyle
>> <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [...] the current status of the TDWG-Ontology efforts.  The Google
>>> Code website seems a bit anemic,
>>
>> Ooh, I love that line.  I think I'll put it in the script of my next
>> animation, to be titled: "Alpha and Beta discuss the current status of
>> of the TDWG-Ontology efforts"
>>
>> Thanks for correcting the URL.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
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