Stan Blum is working with contractors on the new TDWG site. --Gail

________________________________________ From: tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] on behalf of Dave Vieglais [vieglais@ku.edu] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 08:20 To: Tim Robertson Cc: TDWG Content Mailing List; tdwg@lists.tdwg.org; tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org; Stoner, Dan Subject: Re: [tdwg] [tdwg-tag] another poke about Audubon Core status

Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of the TDWG site?

- Dave V.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your offer.

As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the last meeting to move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money aside to make it happen. I’m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the current system when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really is a convoluted mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of backend systems in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as expected. I really don’t think it is something you want to get into, but I sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is maintaining it… a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires more manual text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution in my opinion.

@TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to contract out and do a basic CMS site? If not, I’ll try and pull up the code but I’d need your approval to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials / subscriptions etc. Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?

Thanks, Tim

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan dstoner@acis.ufl.edu wrote:

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I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the status of the Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:

http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html

So consider this another poke about getting the web site updated with the official status of the Standard.

If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web site update, please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack code or whatever is needed).

Thanks,

Dan Stoner iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory University of Florida _______________________________________________ tdwg-tag mailing list tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag

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That was the answer in June too... On Sep 22, 2014 9:23 AM, "Kampmeier, Gail E" gkamp@illinois.edu wrote:

Stan Blum is working with contractors on the new TDWG site. --Gail

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From: tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] on behalf of Dave Vieglais [vieglais@ku.edu] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 08:20 To: Tim Robertson Cc: TDWG Content Mailing List; tdwg@lists.tdwg.org; tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org; Stoner, Dan Subject: Re: [tdwg] [tdwg-tag] another poke about Audubon Core status

Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of the TDWG site?

• Dave V.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

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Hi Dan,

Thanks for your offer.

As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the last meeting to move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money aside to make it happen. I’m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the current system when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really is a convoluted mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of backend systems in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as expected. I really don’t think it is something you want to get into, but I sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is maintaining it… a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires more manual text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution in my opinion.

@TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to contract out and do a basic CMS site? If not, I’ll try and pull up the code but I’d need your approval to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials / subscriptions etc. Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?

Thanks, Tim

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan dstoner@acis.ufl.edu wrote:

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I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the status of the Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:

http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html

So consider this another poke about getting the web site updated with the official status of the Standard.

If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web site update, please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack code or whatever is needed).

Thanks,

Dan Stoner iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory University of Florida _______________________________________________ tdwg-tag mailing list tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag

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Migrating the existing content to the another system is a big job. Migrating to another system is almost certainly the right thing to do, but I would recommend that it be done with some significant planning and coordination, and over a longer time frame. The biggest goal right now is to move as much content as possible on to systems that are current and maintainable (not ancient installations that are stuck because of custom code), to unfreeze the pages for standards, interest/task groups (and charters), and repair the membership system. I hope that makes sense.

By all means, begin planning the bigger move to something more mainstream.

-Stan

On 9/29/14, 6:29 AM, "joel sachs" jsachs@csee.umbc.edu wrote:

There seems to be support for using GitHub for the standards themselves. Other content could easily be supported via a MediaWiki installation. I don't undertsand why we would want to continue with Typo3 - are there reasons?

Joel.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Dave Vieglais wrote:

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Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of the TDWG site?

• Dave V.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

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Hi Dan,

Thanks for your offer.

As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the last meeting to move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money aside to make it happen. I¹m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the current system when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really is a convoluted mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of backend systems in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as expected. I really don¹t think it is something you want to get into, but I sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is maintaining itŠ a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires more manual text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution in my opinion.

@TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to contract out and do a basic CMS site? If not, I¹ll try and pull up the code but I¹d need your approval to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials / subscriptions etc. Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?

Thanks, Tim

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan dstoner@acis.ufl.edu wrote:

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I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the status of the Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:

http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html

So consider this another poke about getting the web site updated with the official status of the Standard.

If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web site update, please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack code or whatever is needed).

Thanks,

Dan Stoner iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory University of Florida _______________________________________________ tdwg-tag mailing list tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag

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