Re: [Tdwg-guid] IODP paleontology meeting and LSID
Excellent. IODP sounds like an interesting project.
I will just confirm that Index Fungorum is using the TCS-RDF schema. You can see an example by following this url: http://194.203.77.68/authority/metadata/?lsid=urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:nam...
It is in the middle of being changed so doesnt resolve using the standard process at present - but is not far away.
If you have LSID Launchpad installed: - browse to lsidres:config/general.htm - go to Edit Authorities - add an authority for indexfungorum.org, putting http://194.203.77.68/authority/ in the host box.
then enter lsidres:urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:names:213649 into your browser. This should display some nicely formatted RDF metadata.
I will also dig out my notes for the tutorial I will give at TDWG and sen dthem to you.
Kevin
Roger Hyam roger@tdwg.org 20/09/2006 1:24 a.m. >>>
Hi Robert,
I think some of this falls into my camp so I will answer what I can. I
am sure others will set me right.
The IPNI and IF have both demonstrated LSID resolvers and I believe Zoobank are keen to move in that direction.
The RDF vocabulary of TCS used by IPNI and IF is pretty stable but needs to be integrated into the core TDWG ontology which will no doubt be discussed at TDWG in St Louis in October. I hope I can demonstrate a system for bringing unity here.
I certainly believe that TDWG should be able to provide the taxonomic and nomenclatural semantics for IODP.
The big question is a service going from <SomeNameString> to <List of LSIDs of Possible Names> to <List of Possible Taxa>. Because of cross nomenclatural code homonyms (your problem name string could be an animal, vegetable or virus) this is not solved by individual nomenclators alone there needs to be an indexing service to provide the
look up table. uBio or GBIF look like good candidates for supplying this kind of services but there is no reason why there couldn't be many - depending on who has the best algorithm this week.
Anyone else want to add to this?
Roger
Robert Huber wrote:
Dear all,
I was invited to attend the IODP Paleontology meeting on taxonomic dictionaries and control lists end of september in Houston, USA. The IODP (Integrated Ocean Drilling Program)is one of the most important international earth science projects. http://iodp.org.
IODP is currently evaluating new technologies for its data and information management. And one hot topic for its paleontology and biostratigraphy work is ..having control on taxonomic names.. I think LSIDs could be very interseting for IODP if they could use some kind of a 'reverse lookup', resolving LSIDs for names.
I was asked to give a short presentation on GUIDS/LSID and I thought maybe one of you already has some interesting material to show? Any help is welcome!
Btw. are there are any exciting news since summer? I am especially interested in: -how is the RDF/TCS thing evolving -> standardised metadata? -how have the nomenclators been proceeding? I heard e.g. about the ZooBank prototype any LSID plans for that yet? -DarwinCore and GBIF.. is there a way to resolve LSID from names?
best regards, Robert
Dr. Robert Huber WDC-MARE / PANGAEA - www.pangaea.de, www.wdc-mare.org Stratigraphy.net - www.stratigraphy.net _____________________________________________ MARUM - Institute for Marine Environmental Sciences (location) University Bremen Leobener Strasse POP 330 440 28359 Bremen Phone ++49 421 218-65593, Fax ++49 421 218-65505 e-mail rhuber@wdc-mare.org, robert.huber@stratigraphy.net
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Hi Robert
It would seem that Roger, Ricardo and Kevin have given you a fair amount of good information overnight (my time). The only thing I would add, is that Donald has written an 'LSID-roadmap' that Ricardo, Roger and I have been planning to 'progress' for nearly a week now. This could also be useful for you. The current plan is to discuss this Thursday. I'd also like to discuss it with Kevin shortly after. Once that is done, I'll get back to you.
The 'LSID resources' document that Ricardo has just put together should be very handy. As Ricardo said, we are trying hard to move the LSID work along before St Louis.
Cheers
Lee
Lee Belbin Manager, TDWG Infrastructure Project Email: lee@tdwg.org Phone: +61(0)419 374 133
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From: tdwg-guid-bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:tdwg-guid-bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kevin Richards Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006 6:19 AM To: Roger Hyam; Robert Huber Cc: TDGW Listserver Subject: Re: [Tdwg-guid] IODP paleontology meeting and LSID
Excellent. IODP sounds like an interesting project.
I will just confirm that Index Fungorum is using the TCS-RDF schema. You can see an example by following this url: http://194.203.77.68/authority/metadata/?lsid=urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:nam es:213649
It is in the middle of being changed so doesnt resolve using the standard process at present - but is not far away.
If you have LSID Launchpad installed: - browse to lsidres:config/general.htm - go to Edit Authorities - add an authority for indexfungorum.org, putting http://194.203.77.68/authority/ in the host box.
then enter lsidres:urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:names:213649 http://194.203.77.68/authority/metadata/?lsid=urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:na mes:213649 into your browser. This should display some nicely formatted RDF metadata.
I will also dig out my notes for the tutorial I will give at TDWG and sen dthem to you.
Kevin
Roger Hyam roger@tdwg.org 20/09/2006 1:24 a.m. >>>
Hi Robert,
I think some of this falls into my camp so I will answer what I can. I am sure others will set me right.
The IPNI and IF have both demonstrated LSID resolvers and I believe Zoobank are keen to move in that direction.
The RDF vocabulary of TCS used by IPNI and IF is pretty stable but needs to be integrated into the core TDWG ontology which will no doubt be discussed at TDWG in St Louis in October. I hope I can demonstrate a system for bringing unity here.
I certainly believe that TDWG should be able to provide the taxonomic and nomenclatural semantics for IODP.
The big question is a service going from <SomeNameString> to <List of LSIDs of Possible Names> to <List of Possible Taxa>. Because of cross nomenclatural code homonyms (your problem name string could be an animal, vegetable or virus) this is not solved by individual nomenclators alone there needs to be an indexing service to provide the look up table. uBio or GBIF look like good candidates for supplying this kind of services but there is no reason why there couldn't be many - depending on who has the best algorithm this week.
Anyone else want to add to this?
Roger
Robert Huber wrote:
Dear all,
I was invited to attend the IODP Paleontology meeting on taxonomic dictionaries and control lists end of september in Houston, USA. The IODP (Integrated Ocean Drilling Program)is one of the most important international earth science projects. http://iodp.org.
IODP is currently evaluating new technologies for its data and information management. And one hot topic for its paleontology and biostratigraphy work is ..having control on taxonomic names.. I think LSIDs could be very interseting for IODP if they could use some kind of a 'reverse lookup', resolving LSIDs for names.
I was asked to give a short presentation on GUIDS/LSID and I thought maybe one of you already has some interesting material to show? Any help is welcome!
Btw. are there are any exciting news since summer? I am especially interested in: -how is the RDF/TCS thing evolving -> standardised metadata? -how have the nomenclators been proceeding? I heard e.g. about the ZooBank prototype any LSID plans for that yet? -DarwinCore and GBIF.. is there a way to resolve LSID from names?
best regards, Robert
Dr. Robert Huber WDC-MARE / PANGAEA - www.pangaea.de, www.wdc-mare.org Stratigraphy.net - www.stratigraphy.net _____________________________________________ MARUM - Institute for Marine Environmental Sciences (location) University Bremen Leobener Strasse POP 330 440 28359 Bremen Phone ++49 421 218-65593, Fax ++49 421 218-65505 e-mail rhuber@wdc-mare.org, robert.huber@stratigraphy.net
TDWG-GUID mailing list TDWG-GUID@mailman.nhm.ku.edu http://mailman.nhm.ku.edu/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-guid
Dear Lee, Kevin, Roger, Ricardo et al,
Thank you very much for the excellent ressources!! I'll keep you informed about the outcomes of that meeting..
best regards, Robert -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: Lee Belbin [mailto:leebel@netspace.net.au] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. September 2006 02:29 An: 'Kevin Richards'; 'Roger Hyam'; 'Robert Huber' Cc: 'TDGW Listserver' Betreff: RE: [Tdwg-guid] IODP paleontology meeting and LSID
Hi Robert
It would seem that Roger, Ricardo and Kevin have given you a fair amount of good information overnight (my time). The only thing I would add, is that Donald has written an 'LSID-roadmap' that Ricardo, Roger and I have been planning to 'progress' for nearly a week now. This could also be useful for you. The current plan is to discuss this Thursday. I'd also like to discuss it with Kevin shortly after. Once that is done, I'll get back to you.
The 'LSID resources' document that Ricardo has just put together should be very handy. As Ricardo said, we are trying hard to move the LSID work along before St Louis.
Cheers
Lee Lee Belbin Manager, TDWG Infrastructure Project Email: lee@tdwg.org Phone: +61(0)419 374 133
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: tdwg-guid-bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:tdwg-guid-bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kevin Richards Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006 6:19 AM To: Roger Hyam; Robert Huber Cc: TDGW Listserver Subject: Re: [Tdwg-guid] IODP paleontology meeting and LSID
Excellent. IODP sounds like an interesting project.
I will just confirm that Index Fungorum is using the TCS-RDF schema. You can see an example by following this url: http://194.203.77.68/authority/metadata/?lsid=urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:n ames:213649
It is in the middle of being changed so doesnt resolve using the standard process at present - but is not far away.
If you have LSID Launchpad installed: - browse to lsidres:config/general.htm - go to Edit Authorities - add an authority for indexfungorum.org, putting http://194.203.77.68/authority/ in the host box.
then enter lsidres:urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:names:213649 into your browser. This should display some nicely formatted RDF metadata.
I will also dig out my notes for the tutorial I will give at TDWG and sen dthem to you.
Kevin
Roger Hyam roger@tdwg.org 20/09/2006 1:24 a.m. >>>
Hi Robert,
I think some of this falls into my camp so I will answer what I can. I am sure others will set me right.
The IPNI and IF have both demonstrated LSID resolvers and I believe Zoobank are keen to move in that direction.
The RDF vocabulary of TCS used by IPNI and IF is pretty stable but needs to be integrated into the core TDWG ontology which will no doubt be discussed at TDWG in St Louis in October. I hope I can demonstrate a system for bringing unity here.
I certainly believe that TDWG should be able to provide the taxonomic and nomenclatural semantics for IODP.
The big question is a service going from <SomeNameString> to <List of LSIDs of Possible Names> to <List of Possible Taxa>. Because of cross nomenclatural code homonyms (your problem name string could be an animal, vegetable or virus) this is not solved by individual nomenclators alone there needs to be an indexing service to provide the look up table. uBio or GBIF look like good candidates for supplying this kind of services but there is no reason why there couldn't be many - depending on who has the best algorithm this week.
Anyone else want to add to this?
Roger
Robert Huber wrote:
Dear all,
I was invited to attend the IODP Paleontology meeting on taxonomic dictionaries and control lists end of september in Houston, USA. The IODP (Integrated Ocean Drilling Program)is one of the most important international earth science projects. http://iodp.org.
IODP is currently evaluating new technologies for its data and information management. And one hot topic for its paleontology and biostratigraphy work is ..having control on taxonomic names.. I think LSIDs could be very interseting for IODP if they could use some kind of a 'reverse lookup', resolving LSIDs for names.
I was asked to give a short presentation on GUIDS/LSID and I thought maybe one of you already has some interesting material to show? Any help is welcome!
Btw. are there are any exciting news since summer? I am especially interested in: -how is the RDF/TCS thing evolving -> standardised metadata? -how have the nomenclators been proceeding? I heard e.g. about the ZooBank prototype any LSID plans for that yet? -DarwinCore and GBIF.. is there a way to resolve LSID from names?
best regards, Robert
Dr. Robert Huber WDC-MARE / PANGAEA - www.pangaea.de, www.wdc-mare.org Stratigraphy.net - www.stratigraphy.net _____________________________________________ MARUM - Institute for Marine Environmental Sciences (location) University Bremen Leobener Strasse POP 330 440 28359 Bremen Phone ++49 421 218-65593, Fax ++49 421 218-65505 e-mail rhuber@wdc-mare.org, robert.huber@stratigraphy.net
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