As part of the MRTG submission, I need to stabilize a namespace for MRTG resources. Should I use as base http://rs.tdwg.org/mrtg/ ? -- Robert A. Morris Emeritus Professor of Computer Science UMASS-Boston 100 Morrissey Blvd Boston, MA 02125-3390 Associate, Harvard University Herbaria email: morris.bob@gmail.com web: http://bdei.cs.umb.edu/ web: http://etaxonomy.org/mw/FilteredPush http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram phone (+1) 857 222 7992 (mobile)
If this is a namespace for the Multimedia Resources Task Group, then yes, but I do not think that MRTG is an appropriate name for a Standard. A Task Group is not a Standard. Gail ---- Original message ----
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That's a good point Gail. Would 'multimedia' too long? or perhaps too explicit? ;) jim On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Gail E. Kampmeier <gkamp@illinois.edu> wrote:
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It's no worse than "tdwg". Hah, hah, just serious. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Jim Croft <jim.croft@gmail.com> wrote:
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Actually, the proposed standard name is Multimedia Resources Metadata. See http://www.keytonature.eu/wiki/MRTG_v1.0 We are only talking about the namespace. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com> wrote:
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Also, it is not a standard for multimedia, it is a standard for multimedia metadata. Standards for multimedia have acronyms like JPEG, MPEG-7, MIME, PAL, SECAM, and NTSC On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com> wrote:
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If the powers that be oppose http://rs.tdwg.org/mrtg, I prpse http://rs.tdwg.org/mrmd Its only disadvantage is typographic: in poorly designed sans-serif faces mrmd and mmd are difficult to distinguish. Its glorious advantage is that its mnemonic and pronunciation are "mermaid". mrmd is far more evocative than dwc ("dwick" too close to "dweeb", or worse), ncd (sounds like somebody stole something), or sdd (which we continually have to explain is not meant to be a homonym for the acronym of Sexually Transmitted Disease). MRTG team: any objection to http://rs.tdwg.org/mrmd ? The more I think of it, the more I really like being the mermaid convener. We should not lose track of the "resource" part of the name, since the standard describes other things than just media, namely collections of media and access to media. As usual, if I hear no objection by Thursday, I'll ask that http://rs.tdwg.org/mrmd be TAGged. Bob p.s. Can somebody tell me what the "rs" denotes in all(?) the BIS(TDWG) namespaces? On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com> wrote:
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mermaid! ftw! :) jim On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com> wrote:
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I dislike the mermaids. Also nobody explained what the d stand for... is it the Data inside metadata? How about calling it HaeckelCore (Ernst Haeckel, famous biological scientist and illustrator, also a German, I admit) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Haeckel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunstformen_der_Natur may be the most famous English illustrator instead? Gregor
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Bob Morris wrote:
I really like being the mermaid convener.
That's hard to beat indeed. -hilmar -- =========================================================== : Hilmar Lapp -:- Durham, NC -:- informatics.nescent.org : ===========================================================
I have quite a few occurrence records for mermaids. We find them on the beach when we are on holiday with the kids - amongst the sand castles. My best voucher photo is attached. Not sure what species this is of if the list server will let the attachment through. On 15 Nov 2010, at 14:34, Hilmar Lapp wrote:
Rich, you have the last word on your fourth grade tormentors. In TDWG, one should be justifiably proud of being called a dwchead ! On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Richard Pyle <deepreef@bishopmuseum.org> wrote:
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"ONLY a namespace"?! OMG! Aren't these things informatically sacred? and by TDWG you mean BIS, right? ;) Seeing the standard has a name you could acronymise it in the time honoured tradition. 'mrm', pronounced 'meerrmm' has a certain acrane appeal... jim On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com> wrote:
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I think in terms of people finding things, multimedia is very appropriate. Gail ---- Original message ----
Gail E. Kampmeier, Illinois Natural History Survey Institute of Natural Resource Sustainability University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 1816 So. Oak St., Champaign, IL 61820 http://www.inhs.illinois.edu/~gkamp ****
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