Yani et al. --- This week I am going to be forced to a campus-level Artificial Intelligence working group meeting at 8am (in 8 minutes). Apparently, our Vice President for Research wants the following: "VP Norton would like the AI WG to develop a (short) list of cross-cutting themes, as well as (funding) mechanisms to support them." Next week I am in San Diego Mon-Wed and won't be able to join either. Sorry that summer is tough for these meetings, Yani! Best, Rob ________________________________ From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 9:30 PM To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 28 July 2021, 08:00 EST

[External Email] Hi all, Sorry for sending this reminder so late! Tomorrow we will discuss:

* TDWG Symposiumhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1ckx3qQz1LtNRazYV2sI-2DjCTI84yh8t-5FA2DWKBoPyLsE_edit&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=Lh3KE-IL8chaxBN7kvn8D6VzfCR-lvqf6iPr12p-vNQ&s=y5HRYSwOsMxLKQPKeKkBGbZm19NBz1Ii_gquG7qH4Uc&e= details and abstract submission * Review effort and completeness related terms * We discussed creating a diagram with all HC terms included so far. I started putting up all terms together herehttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1fQWFOABuikzaYzN9YCfddNYlAvixZdHogKxftcjo6gQ_edit-23slide-3Did.p&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=Lh3KE-IL8chaxBN7kvn8D6VzfCR-lvqf6iPr12p-vNQ&s=8XzKCG9cDzJaKE5P3d6A2UkGNTNz_w4hcymQCA4GrL4&e= so we could play around creating that diagram tomorrow

Summary on methodology can be found in slides 27-30 here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1cpOXOtZi71WUYSG2UG8zQ4FAmvd6gcKW83x0...https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1cpOXOtZi71WUYSG2UG8zQ4FAmvd6gcKW83x0tA6WKis_edit-23slide-3Did.gd3cb7c8759-5F0-5F252&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=Lh3KE-IL8chaxBN7kvn8D6VzfCR-lvqf6iPr12p-vNQ&s=AcrFiY4qLCg1IM1ZxSevqmtaoC4VgyFSdhGmnAaaRrw&e= You can also revisit our discussion notes herehttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_10cvJl9nuVZIsfKJStA4DsqcNNfrtb8jfc-2DmUXckruls_edit-23heading-3Dh.8onwonv4ghau&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=Lh3KE-IL8chaxBN7kvn8D6VzfCR-lvqf6iPr12p-vNQ&s=wOHwgBgzC_M-k5MiSgwGyMGBtUGRpGsPKV6eUW8oCIs&e=

Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers

Peter I wanted to look at these documents but I am not sure which ones they are. I am not finding dates associated with files in the folder.

Can you share the names of the files Rob

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 8:09 AM Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) Peter.Brenton@csiro.au wrote:

Hi Rob,

I have just uploaded a diagram and spreadsheet to the HC google docs folder, which shows a breakdown of how I interpret application of the HC terms. Would really appreciate your feedback on this.

Cheers

Peter

*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org *On Behalf Of *Guralnick,Robert *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 July 2021 9:55 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 28 July 2021, 08:00 EST

Yani et al. --- This week I am going to be forced to a campus-level Artificial Intelligence working group meeting at 8am (in 8 minutes). Apparently, our Vice President for Research wants the following: "VP Norton would like the AI WG to develop a (short) list of cross-cutting themes, as well as (funding) mechanisms to support them." Next week I am in San Diego Mon-Wed and won't be able to join either. Sorry that summer is tough for these meetings, Yani!

Best, Rob

*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2021 9:30 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 28 July 2021, 08:00 EST

*[External Email]*

Hi all,

Sorry for sending this reminder so late!

Tomorrow we will discuss:

· TDWG Symposium https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1ckx3qQz1LtNRazYV2sI-2DjCTI84yh8t-5FA2DWKBoPyLsE_edit&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=Lh3KE-IL8chaxBN7kvn8D6VzfCR-lvqf6iPr12p-vNQ&s=y5HRYSwOsMxLKQPKeKkBGbZm19NBz1Ii_gquG7qH4Uc&e= details and abstract submission

· Review *effort and completeness* related terms

o We discussed creating a diagram with all HC terms included so far. I started putting up all terms together here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1fQWFOABuikzaYzN9YCfddNYlAvixZdHogKxftcjo6gQ_edit-23slide-3Did.p&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=Lh3KE-IL8chaxBN7kvn8D6VzfCR-lvqf6iPr12p-vNQ&s=8XzKCG9cDzJaKE5P3d6A2UkGNTNz_w4hcymQCA4GrL4&e= so we could play around creating that diagram tomorrow

Summary on methodology can be found in slides 27-30 here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1cpOXOtZi71WUYSG2UG8zQ4FAmvd6gcKW83x0... https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presentation_d_1cpOXOtZi71WUYSG2UG8zQ4FAmvd6gcKW83x0tA6WKis_edit-23slide-3Did.gd3cb7c8759-5F0-5F252&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=Lh3KE-IL8chaxBN7kvn8D6VzfCR-lvqf6iPr12p-vNQ&s=AcrFiY4qLCg1IM1ZxSevqmtaoC4VgyFSdhGmnAaaRrw&e=

You can also revisit our discussion notes here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_10cvJl9nuVZIsfKJStA4DsqcNNfrtb8jfc-2DmUXckruls_edit-23heading-3Dh.8onwonv4ghau&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=Lh3KE-IL8chaxBN7kvn8D6VzfCR-lvqf6iPr12p-vNQ&s=wOHwgBgzC_M-k5MiSgwGyMGBtUGRpGsPKV6eUW8oCIs&e=

Yanina V. Sica, PhD

Data Manager | Map of Life

Yale University

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In case it might be helpful, high-level metaphysical semantic models often distinguish between the real world and our capacity to observe it. Theory generally espouses that reality is a continuum of interacting changes of all kinds (continuous processes), while our observations (which are what end up as data) necessarily subsample reality from particular perspectives into discrete processes.

Among the discrete processes are those in which a target of observation undergoes untracked change in a bounded period and those in which the target of observation remains unchanged for some period. The first category, discrete periods of change (with respect to a specific target) are called "events" while the periods without change (with respect to a specific target) are called "states". In both cases periods can vary in size, frame of reference, and our capacity to delimit them with precision. Based on this perspectives, "event" is not confounded by whether it is "instantaneous" or not. I think the important thing will be to have a formal definition, and in that respect, it is probably best to refer to an ontology for the concept you mean when you say "event".

Some references, in case you want to get really metaphysical: Stanford Philosophy of Events - https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/events/ Overview of Common Core Ontologies - https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/2019/05/30/nist-ai-rfi-cubrc_inc... Classifying Processes and Basic Formal Ontology - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320024419_Classifying_Processes_and... Processes and Causality - http://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/causal.htm GSC Observations and Measurements - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262936936_ISO_191562011_-_Geographi...

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 5:12 AM Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com wrote:

Dear All

Based on our conversation today in which we discussed events, Paula suggested we reread Guralnick et al 2017.

I have been rereading it and I agree. Paper attached.

Given the various interpretations of "event", I am wondering if we should find other terminology because event can be used at multiple scales and is usually used as a way to categorize a spatiotemporal happening as a spatiotemporal point rathering that capturing the spatiotemporal extent & starting and ending points.

Looking forward to our conversations next week,

Rob

-- Robert D Stevenson Associate Professor Department of Biology UMass Boston _______________________________________________ tdwg-humboldt mailing list tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-humboldt