Humboldt..here we go!
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Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep. *Please take a look at them in our github https://github.com/tdwg/hc/tree/main/vocabulary (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg_YFwYREADuLhVM_psV3PfDSGA4/edit#gid=0for a simpler version with all current terms.*
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we *skip our general meeting next week.* If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is *changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE).* Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
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+1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote? ________________________________ From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
[External Email] Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep. Please take a look at them in our githubhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e= for a simpler version with all current terms.
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we skip our general meeting next week. If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE). Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
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Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes! https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBI All the best,
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu wrote:
+1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote?
*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
*[External Email]* Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep. *Please take a look at them in our github https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e=for a simpler version with all current terms.*
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we *skip our general meeting next week.* If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is *changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE).* Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
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Hooray on this snowy Friday in Massachusetts!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:14 PM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu wrote:
Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes! https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBI All the best,
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu wrote:
+1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote?
*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
*[External Email]* Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep. *Please take a look at them in our github https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e=for a simpler version with all current terms.*
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we *skip our general meeting next week.* If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is *changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE).* Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
tdwg-humboldt mailing list tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-humboldt
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Hi folks,
Great job getting through this major milestone. I will proceed to create the extension definition by making an updated version following the model of the previous version ( http://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2020-12-11.xml) to avoid any delays.
Even if the name for the product changes, I don't think there is any point in changing the Task Group name. It is an ephemeral entity that began its work with the Humboldt Core (even if it was an extension), An outcome can be a name change without affecting the name of the group. Furthermore, the proposed name may meet with resistance within TDWG anyway, There is a movement to avoid using historical figure names in standards. To avoid having our progress get caught up in any of that, Tim R and I propose to move forward right now without trying to incorporate a name change so as not to impede the great momentum. Since we are still testing it won't really affect the final product name or namespace, but it may be important to make testers aware that the name is not set in stone.
Cheers,
John
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:30 PM Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com wrote:
Hooray on this snowy Friday in Massachusetts!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:14 PM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu wrote:
Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes! https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBI All the best,
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert < rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:
+1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote?
*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
*[External Email]* Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep. *Please take a look at them in our github https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e=for a simpler version with all current terms.*
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we *skip our general meeting next week.* If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is *changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE).* Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
tdwg-humboldt mailing list tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-humboldt
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-- Robert D Stevenson Associate Professor Department of Biology UMass Boston _______________________________________________ tdwg-humboldt mailing list tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-humboldt
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Fine by me, John. Good thoughts all.
________________________________ From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of John Wieczorek tuco@berkeley.edu Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:05 AM To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
[External Email] Hi folks,
Great job getting through this major milestone. I will proceed to create the extension definition by making an updated version following the model of the previous version (http://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2020-12-11.xmlhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rs.gbif.org_sandbox_extension_Humboldt-5F2020-2D12-2D11.xml&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=KNA7m3cnScAdcawp4MfyHlQu-DTIAc9Jr0BzAMPRz7w&e=) to avoid any delays.
Even if the name for the product changes, I don't think there is any point in changing the Task Group name. It is an ephemeral entity that began its work with the Humboldt Core (even if it was an extension), An outcome can be a name change without affecting the name of the group. Furthermore, the proposed name may meet with resistance within TDWG anyway, There is a movement to avoid using historical figure names in standards. To avoid having our progress get caught up in any of that, Tim R and I propose to move forward right now without trying to incorporate a name change so as not to impede the great momentum. Since we are still testing it won't really affect the final product name or namespace, but it may be important to make testers aware that the name is not set in stone.
Cheers,
John
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:30 PM Rob Stevenson <rdstevenson10@gmail.commailto:rdstevenson10@gmail.com> wrote: Hooray on this snowy Friday in Massachusetts!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:14 PM Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@yale.edumailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu> wrote: Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes! https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBIhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__linkto.run_p_X7MQTBBI&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=EMS-JnGCdwBZ4IykZyMPniq_gMuJCE9sh0Kqvfw1AHs&e= All the best,
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert <rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edumailto:rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote: +1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote? ________________________________ From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org> on behalf of Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@yale.edumailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
[External Email] Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep. Please take a look at them in our githubhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e= for a simpler version with all current terms.
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we skip our general meeting next week. If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE). Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
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Many thanks to John W for updating the DwC-A extension for HC.
This has been deployed on https://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2022-03-02.xml and is now available for users of IPTs configured in TEST mode.
There is an installation on https://ipt.gbif.org/ which is suitable for testing, and if you need an account on that, please let me know. However, anyone is free to install an IPT in test mode, which will allow them to try the extension.
Please remember that any dataset published using an IPT in test mode is indexed into the GBIF test system on https://www.gbif-uat.org (a replica of the live GBIF infrastructure).
Thanks, Tim
From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu Date: Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 15.12 To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org, tuco@berkeley.edu tuco@berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go! Fine by me, John. Good thoughts all.
________________________________ From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of John Wieczorek tuco@berkeley.edu Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:05 AM To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
[External Email] Hi folks,
Great job getting through this major milestone. I will proceed to create the extension definition by making an updated version following the model of the previous version (http://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2020-12-11.xmlhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rs.gbif.org_sandbox_extension_Humboldt-5F2020-2D12-2D11.xml&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=KNA7m3cnScAdcawp4MfyHlQu-DTIAc9Jr0BzAMPRz7w&e=) to avoid any delays.
Even if the name for the product changes, I don't think there is any point in changing the Task Group name. It is an ephemeral entity that began its work with the Humboldt Core (even if it was an extension), An outcome can be a name change without affecting the name of the group. Furthermore, the proposed name may meet with resistance within TDWG anyway, There is a movement to avoid using historical figure names in standards. To avoid having our progress get caught up in any of that, Tim R and I propose to move forward right now without trying to incorporate a name change so as not to impede the great momentum. Since we are still testing it won't really affect the final product name or namespace, but it may be important to make testers aware that the name is not set in stone.
Cheers,
John
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:30 PM Rob Stevenson <rdstevenson10@gmail.commailto:rdstevenson10@gmail.com> wrote: Hooray on this snowy Friday in Massachusetts!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:14 PM Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@yale.edumailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu> wrote: Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes! https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBIhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__linkto.run_p_X7MQTBBI&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=EMS-JnGCdwBZ4IykZyMPniq_gMuJCE9sh0Kqvfw1AHs&e= All the best,
Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert <rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edumailto:rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote: +1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote? ________________________________ From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org> on behalf of Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@yale.edumailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
[External Email] Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep. Please take a look at them in our githubhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e= for a simpler version with all current terms.
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we skip our general meeting next week. If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE). Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
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Great! Many thanks Tim and John!
Now to see what testers have to say... Good progress everyone :)
El jue., 3 de mar. de 2022 09:16, Tim Robertson trobertson@gbif.org escribió:
Many thanks to John W for updating the DwC-A extension for HC.
This has been deployed on https://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2022-03-02.xml and is now available for users of IPTs configured in TEST mode.
There is an installation on https://ipt.gbif.org/ which is suitable for testing, and if you need an account on that, please let me know. However, anyone is free to install an IPT in test mode, which will allow them to try the extension.
Please remember that any dataset published using an IPT in test mode is indexed into the GBIF test system on https://www.gbif-uat.org (a replica of the live GBIF infrastructure).
Thanks,
Tim
*From: *tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu *Date: *Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 15.12 *To: *Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org, tuco@berkeley.edu < tuco@berkeley.edu> *Subject: *Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
Fine by me, John. Good thoughts all.
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*[External Email]*
Hi folks,
Great job getting through this major milestone. I will proceed to create the extension definition by making an updated version following the model of the previous version ( http://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2020-12-11.xml https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rs.gbif.org_sandbox_extension_Humboldt-5F2020-2D12-2D11.xml&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=KNA7m3cnScAdcawp4MfyHlQu-DTIAc9Jr0BzAMPRz7w&e=) to avoid any delays.
Even if the name for the product changes, I don't think there is any point in changing the Task Group name. It is an ephemeral entity that began its work with the Humboldt Core (even if it was an extension), An outcome can be a name change without affecting the name of the group. Furthermore, the proposed name may meet with resistance within TDWG anyway, There is a movement to avoid using historical figure names in standards. To avoid having our progress get caught up in any of that, Tim R and I propose to move forward right now without trying to incorporate a name change so as not to impede the great momentum. Since we are still testing it won't really affect the final product name or namespace, but it may be important to make testers aware that the name is not set in stone.
Cheers,
John
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:30 PM Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com wrote:
Hooray on this snowy Friday in Massachusetts!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:14 PM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu wrote:
Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes!
https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBI https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__linkto.run_p_X7MQTBBI&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=EMS-JnGCdwBZ4IykZyMPniq_gMuJCE9sh0Kqvfw1AHs&e=
All the best,
Yanina V. Sica, PhD
Data Manager | Map of Life
Yale University
pronouns: she/her/hers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu wrote:
+1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote?
*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
*[External Email]*
Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep.
*Please take a look at them in our github https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e=for a simpler version with all current terms.*
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we *skip our general meeting next week.* If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is *changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE).*
Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
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Data Manager | Map of Life
Yale University
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Yuhu!! This is great Tim! Thank you and John for getting this ready to start testing! And also Paula and Kate who pushed forward the full revision! The testing team is getting ready to start using the IPT...exciting!
Just as a heads up, we might also be using next week's meeting time to keep working separately on testing and documentation UNLESS someone would like to discuss something with the complete group. Let me know what you think! Have a great weekend!
Yani
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:54 AM Paula Zermoglio pzermoglio@gmail.com wrote:
Great! Many thanks Tim and John!
Now to see what testers have to say... Good progress everyone :)
El jue., 3 de mar. de 2022 09:16, Tim Robertson trobertson@gbif.org escribió:
Many thanks to John W for updating the DwC-A extension for HC.
This has been deployed on https://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2022-03-02.xml and is now available for users of IPTs configured in TEST mode.
There is an installation on https://ipt.gbif.org/ which is suitable for testing, and if you need an account on that, please let me know. However, anyone is free to install an IPT in test mode, which will allow them to try the extension.
Please remember that any dataset published using an IPT in test mode is indexed into the GBIF test system on https://www.gbif-uat.org (a replica of the live GBIF infrastructure).
Thanks,
Tim
*From: *tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu *Date: *Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 15.12 *To: *Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org, tuco@berkeley.edu tuco@berkeley.edu *Subject: *Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
Fine by me, John. Good thoughts all.
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*[External Email]*
Hi folks,
Great job getting through this major milestone. I will proceed to create the extension definition by making an updated version following the model of the previous version ( http://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2020-12-11.xml https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rs.gbif.org_sandbox_extension_Humboldt-5F2020-2D12-2D11.xml&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=KNA7m3cnScAdcawp4MfyHlQu-DTIAc9Jr0BzAMPRz7w&e=) to avoid any delays.
Even if the name for the product changes, I don't think there is any point in changing the Task Group name. It is an ephemeral entity that began its work with the Humboldt Core (even if it was an extension), An outcome can be a name change without affecting the name of the group. Furthermore, the proposed name may meet with resistance within TDWG anyway, There is a movement to avoid using historical figure names in standards. To avoid having our progress get caught up in any of that, Tim R and I propose to move forward right now without trying to incorporate a name change so as not to impede the great momentum. Since we are still testing it won't really affect the final product name or namespace, but it may be important to make testers aware that the name is not set in stone.
Cheers,
John
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:30 PM Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com wrote:
Hooray on this snowy Friday in Massachusetts!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:14 PM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu wrote:
Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes!
https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBI https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__linkto.run_p_X7MQTBBI&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=EMS-JnGCdwBZ4IykZyMPniq_gMuJCE9sh0Kqvfw1AHs&e=
All the best,
Yanina V. Sica, PhD
Data Manager | Map of Life
Yale University
pronouns: she/her/hers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert < rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:
+1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote?
*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
*[External Email]*
Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep.
*Please take a look at them in our github https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e=for a simpler version with all current terms.*
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we *skip our general meeting next week.* If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is *changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE).*
Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
Yanina V. Sica, PhD
Data Manager | Map of Life
Yale University
pronouns: she/her/hers
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I won't be able to make any morning meetings next week, but I am available offline for anything that might be needed.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 1:57 PM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com wrote:
Yuhu!! This is great Tim! Thank you and John for getting this ready to start testing! And also Paula and Kate who pushed forward the full revision! The testing team is getting ready to start using the IPT...exciting!
Just as a heads up, we might also be using next week's meeting time to keep working separately on testing and documentation UNLESS someone would like to discuss something with the complete group. Let me know what you think! Have a great weekend!
Yani
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:54 AM Paula Zermoglio pzermoglio@gmail.com wrote:
Great! Many thanks Tim and John!
Now to see what testers have to say... Good progress everyone :)
El jue., 3 de mar. de 2022 09:16, Tim Robertson trobertson@gbif.org escribió:
Many thanks to John W for updating the DwC-A extension for HC.
This has been deployed on https://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2022-03-02.xml and is now available for users of IPTs configured in TEST mode.
There is an installation on https://ipt.gbif.org/ which is suitable for testing, and if you need an account on that, please let me know. However, anyone is free to install an IPT in test mode, which will allow them to try the extension.
Please remember that any dataset published using an IPT in test mode is indexed into the GBIF test system on https://www.gbif-uat.org (a replica of the live GBIF infrastructure).
Thanks,
Tim
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Fine by me, John. Good thoughts all.
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Hi folks,
Great job getting through this major milestone. I will proceed to create the extension definition by making an updated version following the model of the previous version ( http://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2020-12-11.xml https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rs.gbif.org_sandbox_extension_Humboldt-5F2020-2D12-2D11.xml&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=KNA7m3cnScAdcawp4MfyHlQu-DTIAc9Jr0BzAMPRz7w&e=) to avoid any delays.
Even if the name for the product changes, I don't think there is any point in changing the Task Group name. It is an ephemeral entity that began its work with the Humboldt Core (even if it was an extension), An outcome can be a name change without affecting the name of the group. Furthermore, the proposed name may meet with resistance within TDWG anyway, There is a movement to avoid using historical figure names in standards. To avoid having our progress get caught up in any of that, Tim R and I propose to move forward right now without trying to incorporate a name change so as not to impede the great momentum. Since we are still testing it won't really affect the final product name or namespace, but it may be important to make testers aware that the name is not set in stone.
Cheers,
John
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:30 PM Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com wrote:
Hooray on this snowy Friday in Massachusetts!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:14 PM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu wrote:
Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes!
https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBI https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__linkto.run_p_X7MQTBBI&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=EMS-JnGCdwBZ4IykZyMPniq_gMuJCE9sh0Kqvfw1AHs&e=
All the best,
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert < rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:
+1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote?
*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
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Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep.
*Please take a look at them in our github https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e=for a simpler version with all current terms.*
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we *skip our general meeting next week.* If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is *changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE).*
Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
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Yale University
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Hi Yani, and all,
Sounds good to me.
A topic to start thinking about: TDWG 2022 https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2022/ annual meeting. *The call for organized sessions https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2022/call-for-organized-sessions/ is open (deadline 15 Apr)*, and I think it would be great to propose something from this group. Could be a workshop, could be a symposium... We can think about it for a couple of weeks still, but let's not forget about it :)
Best, p
El vie., 4 de mar. de 2022 13:57, Yanina Sica yanina.sica@gmail.com escribió:
Yuhu!! This is great Tim! Thank you and John for getting this ready to start testing! And also Paula and Kate who pushed forward the full revision! The testing team is getting ready to start using the IPT...exciting!
Just as a heads up, we might also be using next week's meeting time to keep working separately on testing and documentation UNLESS someone would like to discuss something with the complete group. Let me know what you think! Have a great weekend!
Yani
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:54 AM Paula Zermoglio pzermoglio@gmail.com wrote:
Great! Many thanks Tim and John!
Now to see what testers have to say... Good progress everyone :)
El jue., 3 de mar. de 2022 09:16, Tim Robertson trobertson@gbif.org escribió:
Many thanks to John W for updating the DwC-A extension for HC.
This has been deployed on https://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2022-03-02.xml and is now available for users of IPTs configured in TEST mode.
There is an installation on https://ipt.gbif.org/ which is suitable for testing, and if you need an account on that, please let me know. However, anyone is free to install an IPT in test mode, which will allow them to try the extension.
Please remember that any dataset published using an IPT in test mode is indexed into the GBIF test system on https://www.gbif-uat.org (a replica of the live GBIF infrastructure).
Thanks,
Tim
*From: *tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Guralnick,Robert rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu *Date: *Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 15.12 *To: *Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org, tuco@berkeley.edu tuco@berkeley.edu *Subject: *Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
Fine by me, John. Good thoughts all.
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*[External Email]*
Hi folks,
Great job getting through this major milestone. I will proceed to create the extension definition by making an updated version following the model of the previous version ( http://rs.gbif.org/sandbox/extension/Humboldt_2020-12-11.xml https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rs.gbif.org_sandbox_extension_Humboldt-5F2020-2D12-2D11.xml&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=KNA7m3cnScAdcawp4MfyHlQu-DTIAc9Jr0BzAMPRz7w&e=) to avoid any delays.
Even if the name for the product changes, I don't think there is any point in changing the Task Group name. It is an ephemeral entity that began its work with the Humboldt Core (even if it was an extension), An outcome can be a name change without affecting the name of the group. Furthermore, the proposed name may meet with resistance within TDWG anyway, There is a movement to avoid using historical figure names in standards. To avoid having our progress get caught up in any of that, Tim R and I propose to move forward right now without trying to incorporate a name change so as not to impede the great momentum. Since we are still testing it won't really affect the final product name or namespace, but it may be important to make testers aware that the name is not set in stone.
Cheers,
John
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:30 PM Rob Stevenson rdstevenson10@gmail.com wrote:
Hooray on this snowy Friday in Massachusetts!
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 3:14 PM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu wrote:
Rob had a great suggestion to make an online poll to get your anonymous opinion regarding the name change so here it goes!
https://linkto.run/p/X7MQTBBI https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__linkto.run_p_X7MQTBBI&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=F_Y_0S2HteiGdskZ-ZsiSbqnC1APkmzkWGlgyuzJ9y_7e03ASzy1I-pUTj4KW-9P&s=EMS-JnGCdwBZ4IykZyMPniq_gMuJCE9sh0Kqvfw1AHs&e=
All the best,
Yanina V. Sica, PhD
Data Manager | Map of Life
Yale University
pronouns: she/her/hers
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 2:50 PM Guralnick,Robert < rguralnick@flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:
+1 to Humboldt Extension to the Darwin Core. Do we need a formal vote?
*From:* tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2022 2:39 PM *To:* Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt..here we go!
*[External Email]*
Hi all,
I have some great news. Paula, Kate and myself have finally finished revising the definitions, comments and examples for all Humboldt terms that we (as a group) decided to keep.
*Please take a look at them in our github https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tdwg_hc_tree_main_vocabulary&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=YPDRrJ0rp4-DmWgdYoSMeauK_6MkynLCUsttnnk0Xok&e= (where we track all changes from the original publication) or here https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1g2awBg8rxP5vnd7Lg-5FYFwYREADuLhVM-5FpsV3PfDSGA4_edit-23gid-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=7BsXTk6y0knj6XRrUec64ttuZSVZRgrqLciVE7rlle4&m=RkMPnosDRF8bGnvxnpA6roe25_dzvy460diMlkppqxwrMMOG3C9yfY5LBDuQzVau&s=0PKO707nQPsmDrUSm_sfadIJfvHFGfKupGSmhfWQJQ0&e=for a simpler version with all current terms.*
Since subgroups are actively working on testing and documentation, I propose we *skip our general meeting next week.* If you are interested in participating in any of the subgroups please let me know and I'll send the details for the next meetings.
One key item that we still have to agree on is *changing the TDWG Task group name and the associated github from Humboldt Core (HC) to Humboldt Extension to Darwin Core (HE).*
Any thoughts?
Have a great weekend!
Yani
Yanina V. Sica, PhD
Data Manager | Map of Life
Yale University
pronouns: she/her/hers
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Guralnick,Robert
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John Wieczorek
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Paula Zermoglio
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Rob Stevenson
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Tim Robertson
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Yanina Sica
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Yanina Sica