poking from TDWG wiki's
What if the list tdwg-content received a notification from each TDWG wiki when a page changed? These are fairly unobtrusive and presently infrequent (because most TDWG wiki's are inactive). They summarize the change and give links to the new content. I believe that they are set to notify only once a day. I \think/ this can be accomplished without more than edit privilege on the wikis, and if nobody raises major objection, I'll try to implement it for SDD, MRTG, and AnnotationsIG and we can see if it is a help or an annoyance.
Pros: No need to make announcements or comments in two places. WikiLuddites can still respond in the mailing list. No need to opt-in for Wiki change notices. One click to relevant information.
Cons: Default is to summarize changes, so people who want to respond in the mailing list have to proactively visit the relevant Wiki and perhaps cut/paste into their reply. Spammy feeling if a wiki suddenly become very active. Wiki users who do not subscribe to tdwg-content won't see email discussion of wiki pages.
Another possibility is to do this in some other mailing list, perhaps even one devoted to entirely to the notifications. But to me, an active mailing list seems more productive. After all, wiki content is nothing if not TDWG content....
Bob Morris
Just what The world needs: a computer telling us stuff. :(
Still, it's not as horrifyingly misanthropic as Rod Page piping Taxacom posts to Twitter. ;)
Opt out button?
Jim
On Thursday, April 7, 2011, Bob Morris morris.bob@gmail.com wrote:
What if the list tdwg-content received a notification from each TDWG wiki when a page changed? These are fairly unobtrusive and presently infrequent (because most TDWG wiki's are inactive). They summarize the change and give links to the new content. I believe that they are set to notify only once a day. I \think/ this can be accomplished without more than edit privilege on the wikis, and if nobody raises major objection, I'll try to implement it for SDD, MRTG, and AnnotationsIG and we can see if it is a help or an annoyance.
Pros: No need to make announcements or comments in two places. WikiLuddites can still respond in the mailing list. No need to opt-in for Wiki change notices. One click to relevant information. Cons: Default is to summarize changes, so people who want to respond in the mailing list have to proactively visit the relevant Wiki and perhaps cut/paste into their reply. Spammy feeling if a wiki suddenly become very active. Wiki users who do not subscribe to tdwg-content won't see email discussion of wiki pages.
Another possibility is to do this in some other mailing list, perhaps even one devoted to entirely to the notifications. But to me, an active mailing list seems more productive. After all, wiki content is nothing if not TDWG content....
Bob Morris
Robert A. Morris
Emeritus Professor of Computer Science UMASS-Boston 100 Morrissey Blvd Boston, MA 02125-3390 IT Staff Filtered Push ProjectDepartment of Organismal and Evolutionary BiologyHarvard University
email: morris.bob@gmail.com web: http://efg.cs.umb.edu/ web: http://etaxonomy.org/mw/FilteredPush http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram phone (+1) 857 222 7992 (mobile)
Nothing is as horrifying as someone piping Taxacomm messages ANYWHERE. Probably including to Taxacom.
Hah, hah, just serious.
Bob
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Jim Croft jim.croft@gmail.com wrote:
Just what The world needs: a computer telling us stuff. :(
Still, it's not as horrifyingly misanthropic as Rod Page piping Taxacom posts to Twitter. ;)
Opt out button?
Jim
On Thursday, April 7, 2011, Bob Morris morris.bob@gmail.com wrote:
What if the list tdwg-content received a notification from each TDWG wiki
when a page changed? These are fairly unobtrusive and presently infrequent (because most TDWG wiki's are inactive). They summarize the change and give links to the new content. I believe that they are set to notify only once a day. I \think/ this can be accomplished without more than edit privilege on the wikis, and if nobody raises major objection, I'll try to implement it for SDD, MRTG, and AnnotationsIG and we can see if it is a help or an annoyance.
Pros: No need to make announcements or comments in two places.
WikiLuddites can still respond in the mailing list. No need to opt-in for Wiki change notices. One click to relevant information.
Cons: Default is to summarize changes, so people who want to respond in
the mailing list have to proactively visit the relevant Wiki and perhaps cut/paste into their reply. Spammy feeling if a wiki suddenly become very active. Wiki users who do not subscribe to tdwg-content won't see email discussion of wiki pages.
Another possibility is to do this in some other mailing list, perhaps
even one devoted to entirely to the notifications. But to me, an active mailing list seems more productive. After all, wiki content is nothing if not TDWG content....
Bob Morris
Robert A. Morris
Emeritus Professor of Computer Science UMASS-Boston 100 Morrissey Blvd Boston, MA 02125-3390 IT Staff Filtered Push ProjectDepartment of Organismal and Evolutionary
BiologyHarvard University
email: morris.bob@gmail.com web: http://efg.cs.umb.edu/ web: http://etaxonomy.org/mw/FilteredPush http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram phone (+1) 857 222 7992 (mobile)
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Why not send a tweet notification with a bit.ly to the Wiki?
Chuck
From: tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Bob Morris Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 2:19 PM To: tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org Subject: [tdwg-content] poking from TDWG wiki's
What if the list tdwg-content received a notification from each TDWG wiki when a page changed? These are fairly unobtrusive and presently infrequent (because most TDWG wiki's are inactive). They summarize the change and give links to the new content. I believe that they are set to notify only once a day. I \think/ this can be accomplished without more than edit privilege on the wikis, and if nobody raises major objection, I'll try to implement it for SDD, MRTG, and AnnotationsIG and we can see if it is a help or an annoyance.
Pros: No need to make announcements or comments in two places. WikiLuddites can still respond in the mailing list. No need to opt-in for Wiki change notices. One click to relevant information.
Cons: Default is to summarize changes, so people who want to respond in the mailing list have to proactively visit the relevant Wiki and perhaps cut/paste into their reply. Spammy feeling if a wiki suddenly become very active. Wiki users who do not subscribe to tdwg-content won't see email discussion of wiki pages.
Another possibility is to do this in some other mailing list, perhaps even one devoted to entirely to the notifications. But to me, an active mailing list seems more productive. After all, wiki content is nothing if not TDWG content....
Bob Morris
Agree
2011/4/6 Chuck Miller Chuck.Miller@mobot.org:
Why not send a tweet notification with a bit.ly to the Wiki?
And, if possible, also an http://Identi.ca/ notification would be appreciated!
You can sign up for updates at http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/WebNotify
I think the same page would also allow anyone to subscribe on behalf of tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org
On 07/04/2011, at 5:18 AM, Bob Morris wrote:
What if the list tdwg-content received a notification from each TDWG wiki when a page changed? These are fairly unobtrusive and presently infrequent (because most TDWG wiki's are inactive). They summarize the change and give links to the new content. I believe that they are set to notify only once a day. I \think/ this can be accomplished without more than edit privilege on the wikis, and if nobody raises major objection, I'll try to implement it for SDD, MRTG, and AnnotationsIG and we can see if it is a help or an annoyance.
Pros: No need to make announcements or comments in two places. WikiLuddites can still respond in the mailing list. No need to opt-in for Wiki change notices. One click to relevant information.
Cons: Default is to summarize changes, so people who want to respond in the mailing list have to proactively visit the relevant Wiki and perhaps cut/paste into their reply. Spammy feeling if a wiki suddenly become very active. Wiki users who do not subscribe to tdwg-content won't see email discussion of wiki pages.
Another possibility is to do this in some other mailing list, perhaps even one devoted to entirely to the notifications. But to me, an active mailing list seems more productive. After all, wiki content is nothing if not TDWG content....
Bob Morris
-- Robert A. Morris
Emeritus Professor of Computer Science UMASS-Boston 100 Morrissey Blvd Boston, MA 02125-3390
IT Staff Filtered Push Project Department of Organismal and Evolutionary Biology Harvard University
email: morris.bob@gmail.com web: http://efg.cs.umb.edu/ web: http://etaxonomy.org/mw/FilteredPush http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram phone (+1) 857 222 7992 (mobile)
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On 15/04/2011, at 1:51 PM, Paul Murray wrote:
You can sign up for updates at http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/WebNotify
I think the same page would also allow anyone to subscribe on behalf of tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org
Seems I was wrong - we'd have to ask ricardo@tdwg.org to do it.
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