If we ever need a TDWG organization on GitHub, I reserved the name about a year ago: https://github.com/tdwg

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Kampmeier, Gail E gkamp@illinois.edu wrote:

Stan Blum is working with contractors on the new TDWG site. --Gail

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Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of the TDWG site?

• Dave V.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

...

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your offer.

As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the last meeting to move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money aside to make it happen. I’m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the current system when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really is a convoluted mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of backend systems in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as expected. I really don’t think it is something you want to get into, but I sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is maintaining it… a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires more manual text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution in my opinion.

@TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to contract out and do a basic CMS site? If not, I’ll try and pull up the code but I’d need your approval to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials / subscriptions etc. Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?

Thanks, Tim

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan dstoner@acis.ufl.edu wrote:

...

I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the status of the Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:

http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html

So consider this another poke about getting the web site updated with the official status of the Standard.

If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web site update, please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack code or whatever is needed).

Thanks,

Dan Stoner iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory University of Florida _______________________________________________ tdwg-tag mailing list tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag

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+1 for TDWG “resources” in github! Maybe even GitHub pages for most of the website.

Over the years we have followed too many different guidelines and styles and never cleaned up much to bring them all into a standard format. I would bet all standards are in some versioning system somewhere. But I guess this is not true for the final zip archive. DwC is in Google code, TAPIR for example is in the SVN TDWG once provided: http://www.tdwg.org/dav/subgroups/tapir/1.0/docs/tdwg_tapir_specification_20...

Originally we tried to establish RDDL pages under http://rs.tdwg.org/ , which was served from TDWGs internal SVN, for all subgroups and standards. For example: http://rs.tdwg.org/abcd/2.06/rddl-2007-10-18.html http://rs.tdwg.org/tapir/1.0/rddl.html

Maybe it is time for a major cleanup.

Markus

On 22 Sep 2014, at 15:54, Steve Baskauf steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu wrote:

Regardless of whether the TDWG website ever gets fixed or not, it really would be a good idea to put the actual standards zip files onto some kind of version control system like Github. We had the situation where someone inadvertently wrote over the TAPIR standard archive so that when one clicked to download the TAPIR standard from the page linked to its permanent URL, one got the GUID applicability statement instead. Literally, there was NO copy of the standard that could be downloaded from anywhere. I was able to reconstruct all of the documents in the zip archive and get it back up through the bizarre, jury-rigged system that exposes those archives. But it really is unbelievable that it could even be possible that a standards organization could lose the only copy of a standard. I say put them on Github, too. It at least makes it possible to recover from an accidental delete.

Steve

Peter Desmet wrote:

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If we ever need a TDWG organization on GitHub, I reserved the name about a year ago: https://github.com/tdwg

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Kampmeier, Gail E gkamp@illinois.edu wrote: Stan Blum is working with contractors on the new TDWG site. --Gail

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Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of the TDWG site?

• Dave V.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

...

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your offer.

As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the last meeting to move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money aside to make it happen. I’m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the current system when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really is a convoluted mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of backend systems in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as expected. I really don’t think it is something you want to get into, but I sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is maintaining it… a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires more manual text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution in my opinion.

@TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to contract out and do a basic CMS site? If not, I’ll try and pull up the code but I’d need your approval to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials / subscriptions etc. Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?

Thanks, Tim

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan dstoner@acis.ufl.edu wrote:

...

I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the status of the Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:

http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html

So consider this another poke about getting the web site updated with the official status of the Standard.

If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web site update, please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack code or whatever is needed).

Thanks,

Dan Stoner iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory University of Florida _______________________________________________ tdwg-tag mailing list tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag

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I am also in favor of the GitHub repo but we really need to hear from Stan about the status of the work he was having done on the TDWG site. We will need to decide which is the "official" repo but as others point out there is likely good reason to have duplication! We also need to figure out who has time to do this if we go forward. Looks like there have already been a couple of hands partly raised ;-)

Best, James

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Bob Morris morris.bob@gmail.com wrote:

That was the answer in June too... On Sep 22, 2014 9:23 AM, "Kampmeier, Gail E" gkamp@illinois.edu wrote:

...

Stan Blum is working with contractors on the new TDWG site. --Gail

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Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of the TDWG site?

• Dave V.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

...

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your offer.

As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the last meeting to move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money aside to make it happen. I’m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the current system when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really is a convoluted mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of backend systems in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as expected. I really don’t think it is something you want to get into, but I sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is maintaining it… a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires more manual text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution in my opinion.

@TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to contract out and do a basic CMS site? If not, I’ll try and pull up the code but I’d need your approval to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials / subscriptions etc. Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?

Thanks, Tim

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan dstoner@acis.ufl.edu wrote:

...

I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the status of the Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:

http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html

So consider this another poke about getting the web site updated with the official status of the Standard.

If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web site update, please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack code or whatever is needed).

Thanks,

Dan Stoner iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory University of Florida _______________________________________________ tdwg-tag mailing list tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag

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In the case of both Darwin Core and Audubon Core, they exist in two forms: a human-friendly version on the web and an official archived version. For DwC, the human-friendly version is the web pages linked to http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/ and for AC it's the pages linked to http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/Audubon_Core . However, technically, the standard is the set of documents that you get when you download the archive from the standard's permanent URL, http://www.tdwg.org/standards/450/ for DwC, and http://www.tdwg.org/standards/638/ for AC . In the case of AC, the archive contains the versions of those web pages as they existed at ratification. In the case of DwC, it contains the web pages and RDF documents as they existed after the last Decision that resulted in a change to the standard (http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/history/decisions/index.htm Decision-2013-10-09_13).

This is a somewhat unwieldy system, since a citation of the "permanent URL" for the standard leads to a version that is difficult to view and which doesn't necessarily lead to the human-readable websites (although in the cases of both AC and DwC, there are links to those websites if one reads the fine print on the standard's cover page). But the point of the archives is that they contain a version of the standard documents in the form in which they existed the last time they were officially approved. For some standards, the archives are the ONLY version that is viewable at all. So it's important that those official versions be stored in some immutable form that is not subject to accidental tinkering or deletion as could happen with a regular website (as we have seen happen with TAPIR). In the case of DwC, the standard has changed over time. Those changes can be tracked on a large scale by looking at the decision history, but on a detailed scale one would have to look at the Darwin Core Google Code subversion repository (if one knew to look there and what to look for among the myriad documents stored there).

In my view, the cover pages that resolve from the standards' cover pages (e.g. http://www.tdwg.org/standards/638/ ) should tell a user how to locate a human-friendly web-viewable version, as well as how to access an archive under version control (e.g. git or subversion) that contains the official record. Not all of the standards have human-friendly web versions.

Steve

Bob Morris wrote:

As to Audubon Core (AC), a little clarification is needed.

The only thing so far adopted is the AC data model, more precisely "The Audubon Core Multimedia Resources Metadata schema (“AC schema”, or simply “AC”) is a set of metadata vocabularies for describing biodiversity-related multimedia resources and collections. The specification is independent of how these vocabularies may be represented for machine use." [1]

In particular, no artifacts akin to such things as the DwC normative document [2] have been submitted for approval, nor have artifacts akin to Simple Darwin Core [6] though some are under development (*, **). In appearance, the AC documents [1, 3 and 4] together are a bit like the most useful reference for DwC, namely [5]. But unlike [5], [3 and 4] are normative ([1] is not/). Those parts of AC are maintained in a MediaWiki, and would be relatively pointles to put in a public source code repository, perhaps except based on arguments of backup sustainability. In such a case, they would be of use only to AC maintainers, unless the repo happened to support MediaWiki.

Bob Morris TDWG Image Interest Group co-convenor and AC <co-something or other>

[1] http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/Audubon_Core#Introduction [2] http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/rdf/dwctermshistory.rdf [3] http://terms.gbif.org/wiki/Audubon_Core_Structure [4] http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/Audubon_Core_Term_List [5] http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/ [6] http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/xsd/tdwg_dwc_simple.xsd

(*) Readers beware: [2] is an RDF description of Darwin Core, not an RDF description of biodiversity. (**) There will be a session devoted to AC at TDWG 2014 which will hopefully be attended by those already using AC in one or another specific, albeit unsubmitted form.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, James Macklin <james.macklin@gmail.com mailto:james.macklin@gmail.com> wrote:

I am also in favor of the GitHub repo but we really need to hear
from Stan about the status of the work he was having done on the
TDWG site. We will need to decide which is the "official" repo but
as others point out there is likely good reason to have
duplication! We also need to figure out who has time to do this if
we go forward. Looks like there have already been a couple of
hands partly raised ;-)

Best,  James

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com
<mailto:morris.bob@gmail.com>> wrote:

    That was the answer in June too...

    On Sep 22, 2014 9:23 AM, "Kampmeier, Gail E"
    <gkamp@illinois.edu <mailto:gkamp@illinois.edu>> wrote:

        Stan Blum is working with contractors on the new TDWG
        site.  --Gail

        ________________________________________
        From: tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org
        <mailto:tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>
        [tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org
        <mailto:tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>] on behalf of Dave
        Vieglais [vieglais@ku.edu <mailto:vieglais@ku.edu>]
        Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 08:20
        To: Tim Robertson
        Cc: TDWG Content Mailing List; tdwg@lists.tdwg.org
        <mailto:tdwg@lists.tdwg.org>; tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org
        <mailto:tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org>; Stoner,    Dan
        Subject: Re: [tdwg] [tdwg-tag] another poke about Audubon
        Core status

        Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of
        the TDWG site?

        - Dave V.

        On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

        > Hi Dan,
        >
        > Thanks for your offer.
        >
        > As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the
        last meeting to
        > move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money
        aside to make
        > it happen.
        > I’m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the
        current system
        > when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway.  It really
        is a convoluted
        > mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of
        backend systems
        > in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as
        expected.  I
        > really don’t think it is something you want to get into,
        but I
        > sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is
        maintaining
        > it… a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires
        more manual
        > text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution
        in my
        > opinion.
        >
        > @TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to
        contract out and
        > do a basic CMS site?
        > If not, I’ll try and pull up the code but I’d need your
        approval
        > to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials /
        subscriptions etc.
        > Please can you advise us?  Anything we can do to help?
        >
        > Thanks,
        > Tim
        >
        >
        > On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan
        <dstoner@acis.ufl.edu <mailto:dstoner@acis.ufl.edu>> wrote:
        >
        >> I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the
        status of the
        >> Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:
        >>
        >>
        http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html
        >>
        >>
        >> So consider this another poke about getting the web
        site updated with
        >> the official status of the Standard.
        >>
        >> If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web
        site update,
        >> please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack
        code or whatever
        >> is needed).
        >>
        >>
        >> Thanks,
        >>
        >> Dan Stoner
        >> iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory
        >> University of Florida
        >> _______________________________________________
        >> tdwg-tag mailing list
        >> tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org <mailto:tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org>
        >> http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag
        >>
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Just quickly, I got a short statement of work and budget worked out with the potential contractor last winter, but let the project go cold. That was entirely my fault. I had a couple contacts with them through the rest of the year just to maintain contact, and then started to push in late August. Key people were on vacation then, and since I’ve been pushing sending emails and making phone calls trying to get the project started. But I’ve only gotten one response, they’re still interested, but they didn’t tell me when we could start. If anyone knows another Typo3 contractor, I’d be happy to engage with them instead. (The one I’ve been trying to engage is in SF… so I should go knock on their door instead of sending email and phoning.)

I’m going to keep trying…

-Stan

From: tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of James Macklin Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:59 AM To: Bob Morris Cc: tdwg@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg@lists.tdwg.org; TDWG Content Mailing List; tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org; Dave Vieglais Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] [tdwg] [tdwg-tag] another poke about Audubon Core status

I am also in favor of the GitHub repo but we really need to hear from Stan about the status of the work he was having done on the TDWG site. We will need to decide which is the "official" repo but as others point out there is likely good reason to have duplication! We also need to figure out who has time to do this if we go forward. Looks like there have already been a couple of hands partly raised ;-)

Best, James

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.commailto:morris.bob@gmail.com> wrote:

That was the answer in June too... On Sep 22, 2014 9:23 AM, "Kampmeier, Gail E" <gkamp@illinois.edumailto:gkamp@illinois.edu> wrote: Stan Blum is working with contractors on the new TDWG site. --Gail

________________________________________ From: tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] on behalf of Dave Vieglais [vieglais@ku.edumailto:vieglais@ku.edu] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 08:20 To: Tim Robertson Cc: TDWG Content Mailing List; tdwg@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg@lists.tdwg.org; tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org; Stoner, Dan Subject: Re: [tdwg] [tdwg-tag] another poke about Audubon Core status

Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of the TDWG site?

- Dave V.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your offer.

As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the last meeting to move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money aside to make it happen. I’m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the current system when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really is a convoluted mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of backend systems in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as expected. I really don’t think it is something you want to get into, but I sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is maintaining it… a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires more manual text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution in my opinion.

@TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to contract out and do a basic CMS site? If not, I’ll try and pull up the code but I’d need your approval to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials / subscriptions etc. Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?

Thanks, Tim

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan <dstoner@acis.ufl.edumailto:dstoner@acis.ufl.edu> wrote:

...

I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the status of the Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:

http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html

So consider this another poke about getting the web site updated with the official status of the Standard.

If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web site update, please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack code or whatever is needed).

Thanks,

Dan Stoner iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory University of Florida _______________________________________________ tdwg-tag mailing list tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.orgmailto:tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag

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Migrating the existing content to the another system is a big job. Migrating to another system is almost certainly the right thing to do, but I would recommend that it be done with some significant planning and coordination, and over a longer time frame. The biggest goal right now is to move as much content as possible on to systems that are current and maintainable (not ancient installations that are stuck because of custom code), to unfreeze the pages for standards, interest/task groups (and charters), and repair the membership system. I hope that makes sense.

By all means, begin planning the bigger move to something more mainstream.

-Stan

On 9/29/14, 6:29 AM, "joel sachs" jsachs@csee.umbc.edu wrote:

There seems to be support for using GitHub for the standards themselves. Other content could easily be supported via a MediaWiki installation. I don't undertsand why we would want to continue with Typo3 - are there reasons?

Joel.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Dave Vieglais wrote:

...

Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of the TDWG site?

• Dave V.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:

...

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your offer.

As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the last meeting to move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money aside to make it happen. I¹m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the current system when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really is a convoluted mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of backend systems in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as expected. I really don¹t think it is something you want to get into, but I sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is maintaining itŠ a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires more manual text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution in my opinion.

@TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to contract out and do a basic CMS site? If not, I¹ll try and pull up the code but I¹d need your approval to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials / subscriptions etc. Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?

Thanks, Tim

On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan dstoner@acis.ufl.edu wrote:

...

I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the status of the Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:

http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html

So consider this another poke about getting the web site updated with the official status of the Standard.

If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web site update, please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack code or whatever is needed).

Thanks,

Dan Stoner iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory University of Florida _______________________________________________ tdwg-tag mailing list tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-tag

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