[tdwg-humboldt] ALA data team feedback

Fri Oct 20 10:18:41 UTC 2023

Ah, I see - I'd missed the attachment at first look. I thought you'd added
them to the file on GoogleDocs. Thank you!

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:17 PM Yi Ming Gan <ymgan at naturalsciences.be>
wrote:

> Thank you Kate!! I agree with Kate 10000%!! Really kudos to ALA data team!!
> I prefixed my comments with "YMG:"
>
> Cheers
> Ming
>
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> *From:* Kate Ingenloff <kathryn.ingenloff at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 20 October 2023 12:07
> *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>; Yi Ming Gan <
> ymgan at naturalsciences.be>
> *Cc:* Wesley M. Hochachka <wmh6 at cornell.edu>; Kate Ingenloff <
> kingenloff at gbif.org>; Robert Guralnick <robgur at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] ALA data team feedback
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've only had a chance to take a quick look at the responses provided by
> Peggy and the ALA team, but thus far the feedback seems great! It's really
> good to have these very clear and precise thoughts. Thank you, Peggy, to
> you and your crew. :)
>
> I will start going through this in greater detail and add to the GH. I
> will link the relevant GH issue to each issue in the document so the
> progress is obvious (and can be corrected if others feel that there's a
> more appropriate route for addressing the comment).
>
> @Yi Ming Gan <ymgan at naturalsciences.be>, I'm not seeing your comments on
> the document.
>
> Cheers,
> Kate
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:24 AM Dmitry Schigel <dschigel at gbif.org> wrote:
>
> Sounds reasonable, and we can / should treat ALA and iDIV feedback as
> public review issues (now with new DL). It would probably help Steve and
> others if the ALA report is indeed sliced into GH issues that can be
> handled one by one. @Kate Ingenloff <kingenloff at gbif.org> – unless
> someone else volunteers, could you perhaps take care of this? This would
> not only improve issue management, but also archive suggestions and
> concerns in the same space for the public review process.
>
>
>
> I am back to office on Tuesday and hope to meet with Kate soon after to
> see how we can further help the process.
>
>
>
> I had very rich discussion at TDWG and GBIF days here in Australia, and it
> is important that any potential incompatibilities with ALA are resolved, as
> ALA is one of our best chances to champion Humboldt here down under, and
> same for iDIV in continental Europe. It actually sounds like we might be
> able to process both reports and maybe complete the examples in November…
> Also GBIF work programme 2024 is just approved, giving us green light on
> focusing on ecology data streams = Humboldt, and ratification is an
> enabling factor GBIF to coordinate the rollout.
>
>
>
> As promised, I will also speak to Joe about the guide-finishing contract
> and possible budget for that in a bout week from now.
>
>
>
> @Robert Guralnick <robgur at gmail.com>, GBIF Science committee is
> supportive of the guide + paper approach, we should coordinate how
> completion of the guide (hopefully c/o GBIFS) and Humboldt paper 2.0 (which
> I understood you agreed to lead-write) work together (overlaps, lengths,
> links, timelines etc).
>
>
>
> The list of target conferences to market the extension (+guide, + paper)
> is also becoming clearer for 2024 and 2025.
>
>
>
> BR
>
> Dmitry
>
>
>
> *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> *On Behalf
> Of *John Wieczorek
> *Sent:* Thursday, 19 October, 2023 00:31
> *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>; Wesley M.
> Hochachka <wmh6 at cornell.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] ALA data team feedback
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> In our meeting today we discussed that the time requirement for the public
> comment to Humboldt has now been met without any outstanding issues, but we
> did not have any time to review the document shared here. Independent of
> that document we agreed that we would keep the public review open at least
> until Ani has had a chance to corral her iDiv audience and discuss the
> extension live and in person.
>
>
>
> We also discussed the remaining promised Task Group task of mapping
> additional data sets to get to the total of seven. As that was a proposed
> output of the Task Group, it doesn't affect the term ratification process,
> and is open to justification to the Executive committee if not all seven
> are actually delivered. If we can though, great, and the timeline for doing
> so only really affects the disbanding of the Task Group. Since we will wait
> at least two weeks for the iDiv feedback and we need to assess this
> document from Peggy and add issues to the issue tracker as appropriate, we
> are likely looking at at least another 30 days of public comments from the
> time that is done anyway.
>
>
>
> So the big task for next week is to discuss the ALA report, and even
> before then, if possible, get any clear issue into the Humboldt Extension
> issue tracker (https://github.com/tdwg/hc/issues).
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 8:55 AM ys628 <yanina.sica at yale.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear Peggy,
>
>
>
> Thank you so much for the detailed revision and for sharing your feedback
> with us.
>
> This is very useful for us particularly because the issues you found are
> clearly described and justified, I really appreciate this.
>
>
>
> We have a meeting today (which unfortunately I cannot assist) but I would
> ask the group to start revising your feedback.
>
> I uploaded the document
> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/1OxJ_H5vBd9pucjdgQDa6qMaQKl4O89gf/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword>
> to our shared Drive so we can start adding our comments in response to your
> findings.
>
>
>
> After internally discussing your feedback, I will reach out to you and
> invite you to join our meetings so we can find a solution.
>
>
>
> Thank you again and I am glad you find the Humbold a useful addition!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Yanina Sica
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> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
>
> Lead Data Team
>
> Map of Life <https://mol.org/> | Center for Biodiversity and Global Change
> <https://bgc.yale.edu/>
>
> Yale University
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> *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> on behalf of
> Newman, Peggy (NCMI, Clayton) <Peggy.Newman at csiro.au>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:42:28 AM
> *To:* tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
> *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] ALA data team feedback
>
>
>
> Greetings Team Humboldt!
>
>
>
> It was sure nice to catch up with some of you over the past weeks.
>
>
>
> I have a document that we’ve put together with our suggestions for the
> extension. Our team had two discussions about it, and Doug wrote up our
> conclusions in a 2 pager word doc.
>
>
>
> So I’ve tried to attach them here, but don’t know how the listserv will
> cope with a document.  Let’s see.
>
>
>
> In any case, how is best to proceed from here? Let us know if you’d like
> to talk in person I guess.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Peggy
>
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