[tdwg-content] An individual identified to a higher group like Order, is still an instance of a species - just a species that is currently unspecified

Richard Pyle deepreef at bishopmuseum.org
Thu Nov 4 20:41:32 CET 2010


OK, then we're in agreement.


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From: Peter DeVries [mailto:pete.devries at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:15 AM
To: Richard Pyle
Cc: tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org
Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] An individual identified to a higher group like
Order, is still an instance of a species - just a species that is currently
unspecified


Hi Rich, 

I have not actually tried the #Set or occurrenceCount to see if it works as
expected in a triplestore>

Assuming this is for one of those #Set occurrences, a jar of fish all
identified to the level of Perciformes it could be plural.

This does not say that they are all the same species, it just says that they
are some species that falls within Perciformes.

- Pete



On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
wrote:


Right, but that's only one of two types of "identified as Perciformes"
circumstances.  The other is, "there are many different species represented,
but all fall within my taxon concept circumscription for Perciformes".
 
So the key question becomes: is your use of the word "species" in "Order
Perciformes species undetermined" necessarily singular, or might it also be
plural?
 
Aloha,
Rich


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Subject: [tdwg-content] An individual identified to a higher group like
Order, is still an instance of a species - just a species that is currently
unspecified



What I would recommend is that you treat a specimen that is identified to an
order (Perciformes) with something like the following. 

Species => Order Perciformes species undetermined.

The individual is still an instance of a species, however that species has
yet to be determined.

What would work best is to have some standard way of writing the green
string above.

This would allow the occurrences that are of individuals identified only to
the Order Perciformes, to be interpreted as a species that falls somewhere
within the Order Perciformes.

- Pete


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