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size=2 face=Arial>OK, then we're in agreement.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Peter DeVries
[mailto:pete.devries@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 04, 2010
7:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Richard Pyle<BR><B>Cc:</B>
tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tdwg-content] An
individual identified to a higher group like Order, is still an instance of a
species - just a species that is currently unspecified<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi Rich,
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<DIV>I have not actually tried the #Set or occurrenceCount to see if it works
as expected in a triplestore></DIV>
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<DIV>Assuming this is for one of those #Set occurrences, a jar of fish all
identified to the level of Perciformes it could be plural.</DIV>
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<DIV>This does not say that they are all the same species, it just says that
they are some species that falls within Perciformes.</DIV>
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<DIV>- Pete</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Richard Pyle <SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Right,
but that's only one of two types of "identified as Perciformes"
circumstances. The other is, "there are many different species
represented, but all fall within my taxon concept circumscription for
Perciformes".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>So the
key question becomes: is your use of the word "species" in "Order
Perciformes species undetermined" necessarily singular, or might it also be
plural?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>Aloha,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial>Rich</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org"
target=_blank>tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org"
target=_blank>tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Peter DeVries<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:08
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org"
target=_blank>tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[tdwg-content] An individual identified to a higher group like Order, is
still an instance of a species - just a species that is currently
unspecified<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV><BR clear=all>What I would recommend is that you treat a
specimen that is identified to an order (Perciformes) with something like
the following.
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<DIV>Species => <FONT color=#006600>Order Perciformes species
undetermined.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>The individual is still an instance of a species, however that
species has yet to be determined.</DIV>
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<DIV>What would work best is to have some standard way of writing the
green string above.</DIV>
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<DIV>This would allow the occurrences that are of individuals identified
only to the Order Perciformes, to be interpreted as a species that
falls somewhere within the Order Perciformes.</DIV>
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<DIV>- Pete</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Pete
DeVries<BR>Department of Entomology<BR>University of Wisconsin -
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<BR>---------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Pete
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