[tdwg-content] What RDF is (Was Re: Idea for Discussion, Differentiating between "type's" of identifiers)

Peter DeVries pete.devries at gmail.com
Wed Oct 6 20:52:33 CEST 2010


I think the tdwg-tag list was shutdown as part of a effort to condense the
tdwg lists to those that had traffic?

- Pete

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Markus Döring <m.doering at mac.com> wrote:

> I am wondering if this discussion and similar rdf, lsid topics should
> continue on tdwg-tag rather than tdwg-content.
> We might bore quite a few people...
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 17:13, Peter DeVries wrote:
>
> > Some people might find the N3 serialization useful.
> >
> > It simply lists the subject, predicate and object followed by a period.
> >
> > It is somewhat easier to interpret, and can be easy to make. You can even
> create this with apps like FileMaker Pro.
> >
> > You can then take this N3 form and convert it to RDF using online tools
> or standard libraries.
> >
> > Many if not most of the triple / quad stores can read in the n3 form
> directly.
> >
> > Here is an example that links a species concept to a geographical
> location. (in both directions)
> >
> > <http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/>  <
> http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#hasExpectationOf>  <
> http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species> .
> >
> > <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species>  <
> http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#isExpectedIn> <
> http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/> .
> >
> > - Pete
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Peter DeVries <pete.devries at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >[...]
> > > I think part of the problem we are having is that people are not
> recognizing
> > > how different RDF is from straight XML.
> > > ...
> >
> > It's way worse than that.  RDF is not XML at all.  RDF/XML is merely a
> > serialization of RDF  It's not even the most human readable
> > serialization. In fact it is one of the \worst/ for humans who need to
> > figure out what triples are actually in play.   It is so ubiquitous
> > only because there are more tools that can process RDF/XML than any of
> > the other RDF serialization syntaxes (syntices???).  The persistent
> > myth that human readability is an advantage of XML pretty much ignores
> > all the use cases that humans have for reading something. It's about
> > as readable as Lisp. Indeed, a Lisp loving colleague said of XML on
> > the occasion of its first W3 recommendation : "I get it.  It's Lisp
> > with pointy brackets."
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --
> > Robert A. Morris
> > Emeritus Professor  of Computer Science
> > UMASS-Boston
> > 100 Morrissey Blvd
> > Boston, MA 02125-3390
> > Associate, Harvard University Herbaria
> > email: morris.bob at gmail.com
> > web: http://bdei.cs.umb.edu/
> > web: http://etaxonomy.org/mw/FilteredPush
> > http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram
> > phone (+1) 857 222 7992 (mobile)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Pete DeVries
> > Department of Entomology
> > University of Wisconsin - Madison
> > 445 Russell Laboratories
> > 1630 Linden Drive
> > Madison, WI 53706
> > TaxonConcept Knowledge Base / GeoSpecies Knowledge Base
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>


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Pete DeVries
Department of Entomology
University of Wisconsin - Madison
445 Russell Laboratories
1630 Linden Drive
Madison, WI 53706
TaxonConcept Knowledge Base <http://www.taxonconcept.org/> / GeoSpecies
Knowledge Base <http://lod.geospecies.org/>
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