[tdwg-tag] SourceForge LSID project websites broken -role forTDWG?

Beach, James H beach at ku.edu
Tue Mar 31 17:46:30 CEST 2009

I agree.  

But before characterizing with finality, the professional rank of our
community in its efforts here (professional, amateur, cottage, fan
boys), I think we need to allow for the funding and evaluation context
within which we strive.  Our community relies on grant support, whereas
book and journal publishers, aggregators, libraries, etc. have a huge
economic incentive to create a stable ID and cross-linkage

Show me a foundation that understands the value of investing in
long-term, stable, supported *research community-enabling*,
international, cyberinfrastructure and in the importance of measuring
its impact, and I'll show you people with insight and vision.   Moore
Foundation with its modest but vital funding of TDWG 4-5 years ago
displayed such a flash of insight.

James H. Beach
Biodiversity Institute
University of Kansas
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Subject: Re: [tdwg-tag] SourceForge LSID project websites broken -role

I think it's one of the major failings of our community that we haven't
dealt with the issue (both technically and socially) of providing
stable, resolvable GUIDs for the things we care about, and that each
major initiative that comes along (e.g., GBIF, EOL) says it's not their
problem to solve. Creating shiny new web sites is obviously more fun,
but by comparison with what the publishing industry has achieved with
DOIs and CrossRef, we are a bunch of amateurs.



On 31 Mar 2009, at 14:33, Hilmar Lapp wrote:

> On Mar 31, 2009, at 12:55 AM, Gregor Hagedorn wrote:
>> http://lsid.tdwg.org/urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:names:510023 will 
>> work as a clickable link to a web resource and can be read by 
>> semantic web machine reasoners.
> Incidentally, it doesn't because apparently the lsid.tdwg.org server 
> is down.
> If we imagine a biodiversity semantic web where all LSIDs are proxied 
> through http://lsid.tdwg.org that server better be set up in a way 
> that it won't easily take down everything with it whenever it has a 
> hiccup. Is TDWG committed to creating and supporting that 
> infrastructure?
> 	-hilmar
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