[tdwg-tag] Differences in thinking between TDWG and LinkedData groups about data sharing / integration [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

greg whitbread ghw at anbg.gov.au
Sun Apr 26 15:15:55 CEST 2009


Pete,

Trying to maintain Jim's light hearted take on this:

(-:
we have c. one million occurrence records deliverable in TDWG standard
form (HISPID3) from  http://anbg.gov.au/cgi-bin/anhsir.  Available
since March 1993 (when there were < 200 web servers on the Internet)
this URL provides access to a web form interface and an API for REST
style services (even then):
http://anbg.gov.au/cgi-bin/anhsir?format=HISPID3&taxon_name=Doodia+aspera%25
for example will return HISPID data extract from all occurrence
records with taxon names starting with Doodia aspera. The "ontology"
on which this is based is available at
http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/HISCOM/HISPID/HISPID3/H3.html.
HISPID was first published in 1989, accepted as a TDWG standard in
1993 and revised again in print in 1996.

The current HISPID ( http://hiscom.chah.org.au/wiki/HISPID_5 )
extends ABCD. Sooner or later we all have to let go and go with the
flow. Darwin Core does not yet support Herbarium data interchange. But
before it does, I would like to see another HISPID, designed
explicitly for Herbarium Data interchange, based on a standardized
TDWG vocabulary.
:-)

We are just a few weeks away from exposing these data as both linked
data and TAPIR XML with resolvable LSIDs.

The Australian Faunal Directory (AFD) and Australian Plant Name Index
(APNI) were to be made available at the same time under each of these
protocols (incl. TAPIR TCS)  applying as much of the TDWG vocabulary
that we have been able to use ... but if there are plans to change
this stuff do we have to rethink - again?  From our efforts we too
would like to have input into how the vocabularies evolve. Free Data
(apologies to L.Lessig) is the essence of the semantic web and we know
from experience that we have to live with how we let it go.

If I was at home in bed last Thursday  the <diatribe/> may not have
been so light hearted. So I am still hopeful it can all work out for
the best.

greg


2009/4/24 Peter DeVries <pete.devries at gmail.com>:
> Thank you everyone :-)
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:39 AM, "Markus Döring (GBIF)" <mdoering at gbif.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> http://data.gbif.org/ws/rest/occurrence/get/1003321
>
>
> This I like :-)
>>
>> http://darwincore.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/terms/index.htm
>>
>
> I will look through this and the examples and try to get my stuff to follow
> it.
>
>> Personally I think this is a far more important issue than having
>> globally unique ids.
>
> Yes, I agree. Also I think it is something that could move forward quickly
> with less controversy.
> Thanks again,
> - Pete
>
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Greg Whitbread
Australian National Botanic Gardens
Australian National Herbarium
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