[Tdwg-guid] IODP paleontology meeting and LSID

Lee Belbin leebel at netspace.net.au
Wed Sep 20 02:29:27 CEST 2006

Hi Robert
It would seem that Roger, Ricardo and Kevin have given you a fair amount of
good information overnight (my time). The only thing I would add, is that
Donald has written an 'LSID-roadmap' that Ricardo, Roger and I have been
planning to 'progress' for nearly a week now. This could also be useful for
you. The current plan is to discuss this Thursday. I'd also like to discuss
it with Kevin shortly after. Once that is done, I'll get back to you.
The 'LSID resources' document that Ricardo has just put together should be
very handy. As Ricardo said, we are trying hard to move the LSID work along
before St Louis. 

Lee Belbin
Manager, TDWG Infrastructure Project
Email: lee at tdwg.org
Phone: +61(0)419 374 133 



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[mailto:tdwg-guid-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kevin Richards
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006 6:19 AM
To: Roger Hyam; Robert Huber
Cc: TDGW Listserver
Subject: Re: [Tdwg-guid] IODP paleontology meeting and LSID

Excellent.  IODP sounds like an interesting project.
I will just confirm that Index Fungorum is using the TCS-RDF schema.
You can see an example by following this url:
It is in the middle of being changed so doesnt resolve using the standard
process at present - but is not far away.
If you have LSID Launchpad installed:
- browse to lsidres:config/general.htm
- go to Edit Authorities
- add an authority for indexfungorum.org, putting in the host box.
then enter lsidres:urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:names:213649
mes:213649>  into your browser.  This should display some nicely formatted
RDF metadata.
I will also dig out my notes for the tutorial I will give at TDWG and sen
dthem to you.

>>> Roger Hyam <roger at tdwg.org> 20/09/2006 1:24 a.m. >>>

Hi Robert,

I think some of this falls into my camp so I will answer what I can. I 
am sure others will set me right.

The IPNI and IF have both demonstrated LSID resolvers and I believe 
Zoobank are keen to move in that direction.

The RDF vocabulary of TCS used by IPNI and IF is pretty stable but needs 
to be integrated into the core TDWG ontology which will no doubt be 
discussed at TDWG in St Louis in October. I hope I can demonstrate a 
system for bringing unity here.

I certainly believe that TDWG should be able to provide the taxonomic 
and nomenclatural semantics for IODP.

The big question is a service going from <SomeNameString> to <List of 
LSIDs of Possible Names> to <List of Possible Taxa>. Because of cross 
nomenclatural code homonyms (your problem name string could be an 
animal, vegetable or virus) this is not solved by individual 
nomenclators alone there needs to be an indexing service to provide the 
look up table. uBio or GBIF look like good candidates for supplying this 
kind of services but there is no reason why there couldn't be many - 
depending on who has the best algorithm this week.

Anyone else want to add to this?


Robert Huber wrote:
> Dear all,
> I was invited to attend the IODP Paleontology meeting on taxonomic
> dictionaries and control lists end of september in Houston, USA. 
> The IODP (Integrated Ocean Drilling Program)is one of the most 
> important international earth science projects. http://iodp.org.
> IODP is currently evaluating new technologies for its data and
> information management. And one hot topic for its paleontology
> and biostratigraphy work is ..having control on taxonomic names..
> I think LSIDs could be very interseting for IODP if they could use
> some kind of a 'reverse lookup', resolving LSIDs for names.
> I was asked to give a short presentation on GUIDS/LSID and I 
> thought maybe one of you already has some interesting material to
> show? Any help is welcome!
> Btw. are there are any exciting news since summer? I am especially
> interested in:
> -how is the RDF/TCS thing evolving -> standardised metadata? 
> -how  have the nomenclators been proceeding? I heard e.g. about the
> ZooBank prototype any LSID plans for that yet?
> -DarwinCore and GBIF.. is there a way to resolve LSID from names?
> best regards,
> Robert
> Dr. Robert Huber
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