[tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation

Thu Feb 16 20:13:50 UTC 2023

Thanks for engaging so actively in this topic!  (from getting ideas in the shower to artificial intelligence...this group is amazing!)

I was not sure if everybody was getting the emails with the options and responses so I created a small survey to make sure everybody votes.

It is anonymous (at least I think so..) and takes less than a minute.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/humboldtTDWG

We can discuss the results next week!

best!

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Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation

+1 with Peter :) I feel threatened by the intelligence of ChatGPT hahaha!
I also like “eco”! “inv” is nice too but I feel like not everyone uses the term inventory, so “inv” may not be intuitive for some. The first word that comes to my mind with “inv” was “invertebrate” hahaha!
Thanks for thinking about this Steve! Happy to hear that this team is in your mind even during shower!

Cheers
Ming

On 16 Feb 2023, at 00:05, Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <Peter.Brenton at csiro.au> wrote:

I should have taken the time to fully read the whole thread and other related emails before commenting, there seems to be general agreement to settle on something more descriptive anyway. I’m cool with majority view.

Peter

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Subject: RE: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation

I’m supportive of this too and I like “eco” more than any of the other proposed abbreviations. However, as John suggests, that might already be taken. If eco is not available, perhaps using “inventory” in full would be more intuitive and explicit.

Peter

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Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation

Great suggestion! I agree and am very supportive of the change in namespace removing Humboldt.
 Is a combination of your suggestions too much? ecoInv maybe?
Yani

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James <steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu<mailto:steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either
http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Feco%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HILrmpN8mfuDz7MokJlQ1Lb0U9FwpE7cd3EXXICGUw8%3D&reserved=0>
or
http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Finv%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=oY5UdUs31EEdZJ1kmJ7L6B2dNepdIeklfl9OX5R%2B4Ug%3D&reserved=0>

which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG.

This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem.

I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction.

Thoughts?

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Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55 PM
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Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 15 February 2023, 08:00 EST/13:00 UTC

Hi valentines!

I hope everybody is great.

Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items:

  *   review taxonomic scope related terms (see slide 13 and 14 here<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=P9IslKStULPc4PbxsikP9XtEUvRmB%2BRcXv5FgeA3Zz4%3D&reserved=0>)
  *   discuss the need for isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?) (slide 15 here<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=P9IslKStULPc4PbxsikP9XtEUvRmB%2BRcXv5FgeA3Zz4%3D&reserved=0>) --> john is still thinking about this
  *   discuss the need for IdentificationConfidence (slide 15 here<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982754077%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=6561My4WKaw2Bqifgy5rXXdCB%2FyFgyrmBIT5FIFkQ%2BM%3D&reserved=0>)
  *   start writing the implementation report!!

See you soon!

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Yani

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