[tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation

Wed Feb 15 18:24:11 UTC 2023

Hi all,

LOV is back up again: https://lov.linkeddata.es/

I checked the vocabs https://lov.linkeddata.es/dataset/lov/vocabs

for “eco”, “env”, and “ecoenv” and did not see any usage. However, I also checked dwc and ac and they don’t come up either (not sure why, I think I submitted them long ago). So that doesn’t mean for sure that they aren’t being used.

Steve

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From: "Wesley M. Hochachka" <wmh6 at cornell.edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 9:27 AM
To: Steve Baskauf <steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu>, Yanina Sica <yanina.sica at gmail.com>, "tuco at berkeley.edu" <tuco at berkeley.edu>, Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation

HI all,

   I'm slightly more inclined toward "ecoinv", because "eco" by itself feels to me like it is too generic.  Darwin Core, for example, also contains ecological data, and "ecology" and "ecological" have all sorts of meanings even in English, and the meanings are even more diverse when one starts to look at other languages (e.g. "öko", the German-language equivalent to "eco" refers to organic food).
   Of source, "eco" is still a clearer descriptor of a type of information content than "Darwin", which in addition to being a surname is a surname associated with evolutionary more than ecological phenomena.

   Anyway, either "eco" or "ecoinv" feel appropriate to me, and thinking laterally from the name "Humboldt" was a great idea.

Wesley

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From: Baskauf, Steven James <steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu>
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Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation

I think shorter is better, although ecoinv: isn’t that long.

The Linked Open Vocabularies https://lov.linkeddata.es/dataset/lov<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flov.linkeddata.es%2Fdataset%2Flov&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7Cb889e01b1bab494de8f908db0f68a14c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120716366256398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=yfBEEs0Fk%2BqxXyImDKG28j18z14uL7XEdvxohzkCc1Y%3D&reserved=0> website, where I normally go to see what abbreviations people are using seems to be down. I don’t know if that is temporary or permanent. I’ll try check the various suggestions later. I agree with John that if eco: isn’t used, we should jump on it. It is simple and memorable.

Steve

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Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair

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From: Yanina Sica <yanina.sica at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:59 AM
To: "tuco at berkeley.edu" <tuco at berkeley.edu>, Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
Cc: Steve Baskauf <steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu>, "wmh6 at cornell.edu" <wmh6 at cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation

Great suggestion! I agree and am very supportive of the change in namespace removing Humboldt.

 Is a combination of your suggestions too much? ecoInv maybe?

Yani

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco at berkeley.edu>> wrote:

I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James <steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu<mailto:steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu>> wrote:

Hi all,

This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either

http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Feco%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7Cb889e01b1bab494de8f908db0f68a14c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120716366256398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nOJCkyNICt4OZ05pHaiKnINo9Mi9CaS%2FZCEuOCfUSJw%3D&reserved=0>

or

http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Finv%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7Cb889e01b1bab494de8f908db0f68a14c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120716366256398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MVGOpcocsQxcZ6YGYuS9mVLkuCwdaKLFqJ3ekKuAxxQ%3D&reserved=0>

which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG.

This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem.

I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction.

Thoughts?

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Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55 PM
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Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 15 February 2023, 08:00 EST/13:00 UTC

Hi valentines!

I hope everybody is great.

Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items:

  *   review taxonomic scope related terms (see slide 13 and 14 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7Cb889e01b1bab494de8f908db0f68a14c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120716366256398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4tZfK8Ln57M%2BmlmMtMXBPSxCiHIIf6qLSkEp2VKtj5U%3D&reserved=0>)
  *   discuss the need for isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?) (slide 15 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7Cb889e01b1bab494de8f908db0f68a14c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120716366256398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4tZfK8Ln57M%2BmlmMtMXBPSxCiHIIf6qLSkEp2VKtj5U%3D&reserved=0>) --> john is still thinking about this
  *   discuss the need for IdentificationConfidence (slide 15 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7Cb889e01b1bab494de8f908db0f68a14c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120716366256398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4tZfK8Ln57M%2BmlmMtMXBPSxCiHIIf6qLSkEp2VKtj5U%3D&reserved=0>)
  *   start writing the implementation report!!

See you soon!

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