[tdwg-humboldt] Progress on Humboldt Extension TG.

Tue Aug 30 20:23:55 UTC 2022

Hi Yani,

Next week at the same time is fine. Any later interferes with having to get
Nancy.

Cheers,

John

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 5:00 PM Sica, Yanina <yanina.sica at yale.edu> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Since we do not have a confirmation from Peter (it is still very early for
> him) and not many people replied, lets postpone this important discussion
> for next week so we have a better chance to include more members.
>
> *John and all, does Tuesday 6 at 4:30 pm EST work for you? Is it possible
> to move it a bit later (5 or 5:30pm), so it is not so early for Peter?*
>
> Let me hear your thoughts,
> Cheers,
>
> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
> Lead Data Team
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> *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> on behalf of
> Sica, Yanina <yanina.sica at yale.edu>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 29, 2022 8:47 PM
> *To:* Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <Peter.Brenton at csiro.au>;
> tuco at berkeley.edu <tuco at berkeley.edu>; Humboldt Core TG <
> tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Progress on Humboldt Extension TG.
>
> Hi all! Thanks for your quick replies!
> Peter, John cannot make it to our usual meeting time and can only meet
> during our afternoon, thats why we proposed Tue 4:30pm EST which I know is
> very early for you (Wed 6:30am), I am so sorry! Since you had mentioned an
> interesting dataset with absences that we can test, I think it is key that
> you can join. If tomorrow does not work we can find another time that works
> better for all of us!
>
> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
> Lead Data Team
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> *From:* Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <Peter.Brenton at csiro.au>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 29, 2022 6:39:38 PM
> *To:* Sica, Yanina <yanina.sica at yale.edu>; tuco at berkeley.edu <
> tuco at berkeley.edu>; Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [tdwg-humboldt] Progress on Humboldt Extension TG.
>
>
> Hi Yani,
>
>
>
> I hope you had a wonderful time in Alaska. I hear that there are numerous
> wildfires going there at the moment.
>
>
>
> I am OK for meeting at our usual time this week.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> *From:* Sica, Yanina <yanina.sica at yale.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 August 2022 6:59 AM
> *To:* tuco at berkeley.edu; Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>;
> Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <Peter.Brenton at csiro.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Progress on Humboldt Extension TG.
>
>
>
> Hi all!
>
> Thanks, Peter, for sharing the links (and John and Tim for helping out!)
>
>
>
> Are we up for discussing the new GBIF data model this week? We originally
> suggested meeting tomorrow *(Tuesday 30 at 4:30 pm EST). *
>
>
>
> *Does that time still work for most of you? particularly Tim/John? or
> should we push it to next week?*
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yani
>
>
>
> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
>
> Lead Data Team
>
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> *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> on behalf of
> Tim Robertson <trobertson at gbif.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
> *To:* tuco at berkeley.edu <tuco at berkeley.edu>; Humboldt Core TG <
> tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>; Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <
> Peter.Brenton at csiro.au>
> *Cc:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Progress on Humboldt Extension TG.
>
>
>
> It went through fine Peter, please let me know directly in future if you
> experience issue.
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> Congratulations on the Event Core from BioCollect – I can imagine that’s a
> great step forward.
>
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>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Tim
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>
> *From: *tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> on behalf of
> John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 16 August 2022 at 14.01
> *To: *Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <Peter.Brenton at csiro.au>
> *Cc: *Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Progress on Humboldt Extension TG.
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> Hi Peter,
>
>
>
> This message came through to me at least, but my berkeley.edu
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> Cheers,
>
>
>
> John
>
>
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> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 3:41 AM Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <
> Peter.Brenton at csiro.au> wrote:
>
> Thanks John,
>
>
>
> I don’t know what is going on with the group email as I have tried sending
> it 3 times now. Can others please advise if you do receive this one, I’ll
> assume not if I don’t hear back.
>
>
>
> Additional artefacts [to the video link that John sent] include:
>
>    - The ALA Extended Data Model Producers' Guide
>    <https://t.e2ma.net/click/bgczsk/j6lmkc7/f7zqc5b> to help in the
>    process; and
>    - The event pilot system
>    <https://t.e2ma.net/click/bgczsk/j6lmkc7/vz0qc5b>, now available for
>    testing.
>
>
>
> Also of interest, my team has just completed a DwC-A output format for the
> event model from BioCollect. This allows us to easily produce an event-core
> compliant DwC-A output for any project on the BioCollect platform. This is
> currently being tested with the ALA extended data ingest process and so far
> is working well. Our next step is to incorporate the Humboldt extensions
> into the BioCollect platform and incorporate these into all of the output
> formats, including the DwC-A output.
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> Cheers,
>
>
>
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> *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> *On Behalf
> Of *John Wieczorek
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 16 August 2022 7:41 AM
> *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Progress on Humboldt Extension TG.
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> Hi all,
>
>
>
> The ALA webinar Yani was referring to can be found at
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8zlOX_tVTw
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> .
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> Enjoy your vacation, Yani.
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>
>
> Cheers,
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>
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> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 4:08 PM Sica, Yanina <yanina.sica at yale.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Hope everybody is doing well!
>
>
>
> I wanted to recap some of the advances we have made so far, and what the
> next few weeks will look like.
>
>
>
> *What has happened?*
>
> We have had varied results reaching out to people to test the extension,
> see communications and time frame here
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> We have extended the testing period until September so more users can
> provide feedback. The timeframe for testing is related to TDWG 2022 where
> we will present the advances of the Humboldt Extension (abstract here
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1-1Z5sgZXjXkIJOghWY4U7nn2Qn4DzOTHD5SuxTvQbI8%2Fedit&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7C99b9154cbcd04f2fd76d08da8a212f84%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637974173904969019%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=p0365GOo6wPqYptEE1d7Uo3PFEawXD7q9aB0NvsuqpQ%3D&reserved=0>).
> However, testing and feedback can go beyond that timeline if needed, the
> key here is to make this extension broadly useful by incorporating as much
> user experience feedback as possible!
>
>
>
> Even though the User Guide
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1ZglRfoQUGpsDm4t2M4B6Qif2IlbPvuBaRBeOi9x1IHk%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7C99b9154cbcd04f2fd76d08da8a212f84%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637974173904969019%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9zZaFVd5dyoTaCWKft4yb7HJExx2OPAmEr89HiCtSn0%3D&reserved=0>
> is a "work in progress", it is in a good shape to share. The idea is
> that this document evolves into a proper Humboldt Extension
> Documentation based on the feedback. It has a good explanation of what we
> are trying to archive with the Extension as well as some useful tips on how
> to structure the data (using eventID)s and how to use the GBIF IPT to test
> the extension. It also includes the link to a Google Form to provide
> feedback. Please share!
>
>
>
>
>
> *What is next?*
>
> It is a good time to start discussing how the Humboldt Extension fits in
> the expanded GBIF data model. John and Tim had agreed on having a
> dedicated discussion on this. We are planning an afternoon meet for that on *Monday
> 29 or Tuesday 30 at 4:30 pm EST*. John and Tim are interested in
> identifying a case study that takes advantage of the HE to report
> inventories, particularly that deal with absences. One ecological use case
> has already been developed (Ecological Survey Data Exchange Format
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F10YgbavCieUIpN_kNoHGHEkvILpFWCx8k-ZNXFVD4gSA%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7C99b9154cbcd04f2fd76d08da8a212f84%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637974173904969019%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=s64MSDwj51e5QTNHarDdXP0ZCvBN1GImCi%2BKHIsbml4%3D&reserved=0>)
> but it is extremely simple and doesn't require anything from HE. Peter
> Brenton has already identified a potential dataset, but everybody is
> encouraged to bring ideas and datasets to the conversation.
>
>
>
> On a related topic, the ALA presented a webinar for the extended data
> model project that they have been undertaking in collaboration with GBIF.
> It is well worth watching this session before our discussion. They have
> also worked on a guide
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> could be a useful reference for us.  *Peter, can you share the recording?* It
> seems I did not get it after all.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I wanted to let you know that I will be on holiday for the next 2
> weeks. The Wednesday 8 am EST meeting time is open for you to meet and
> continue discussions, but I will not be able to join.
>
>
>
> See you in 2 weeks!
>
> All the best!
>
>
>
> Yani
>
>
>
> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
>
> Lead Data Team
>
> Map of Life
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