[tdwg-content] Taxonomic name usage files

[Nico Franz]

Thank you, Gaurav, Rich & Greg!

   Really appreciate the detailed information, which will take some time to
digest but is very helpful and concrete. I should note that my colleague
Mike Rosenberg brought this up (you might be aware of this:
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0101704);
I was just fishing the TDWG waters for input - productively, as it turns
out. Greg - those files are great - thanks! Personal opinion: not the first
time that you & Australian colleagues are ahead of the pack.

   At a fairly high level, it does seems to me that if certain kinds of
speaker intentions facilitate particular semantic integration services (or
not so much), then finding a structured way to records these intentions may
be worth exploring. For instance, could I possibly be the author of a
biodiversity data paper where all TNUs are explicitly not "mine"? Or: how
do I record a case where I say "our higher-level classification follows X",
but then X's family-level concepts show up as paraphyletic on my phylogeny.
Apparently I only followed X so much (at which point I 'said': "screw X,
this is better").  All this might mean getting into taxonomists' business,
which makes it ambitious.

Best, Nico


On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
wrote:

> Hi Nico,
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> I think it would be helpful to define a couple of terms first. I know you
> already know much of this, but for the benefit of other I think it would
> help set a baseline for convsersation.
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> *From:* tdwg-content [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Nico Franz
> *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2016 12:19 PM
> *To:* tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org; vocab at noreply.github.com
> *Subject:* [tdwg-content] Taxonomic name usage files
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> Hi TDWG Content group:
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>    Perhaps someone can answer these question? Suppose I submitted a new
> biodiversity study to a journal for peer review and ultimately publication.
> My study mentions taxonomic names, but some names are used in more than one
> specific sense throughout the manuscript. As part of my study's data body,
> I want to say things like: at this point or these sections in my
> manuscript, I am using the name in the sense of authors X. And: later on in
> the Discussion, I am using the name in "my new sense" (as an example). I
> want to submit a table with structured metadata on the various usages of
> names in my manuscript, as part of the supplementary data provided to the
> Journal. I believe part of what the table would have to reflect, for each
> usage, is whether this is my usage, or that of someone else that I am ok
> with (=> define speaker role).
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>    Is there a best TDWG standard to glean terms and definitions from to
> draft up that table? I assume it is Darwin Core and/or the TCS, but then
> has someone actually tried this (= extract the subset of terms needed to
> identify names, usages, speaker roles) in conjunction with (e.g.) a
> biodiversity inventory or taxonomic revision to be published? The key
> purpose here would be to facilitate better name usage data practices, tied
> to the process of publishing new data via journals. To make data about name
> usages part of the supplementary data, in a structured and rather explicit
> format.
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> Thanks and best,
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> Nico
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