[tdwg-content] [tdwg] [tdwg-tag] another poke about Audubon Core status
Steve Baskauf
steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu
Tue Sep 23 03:31:23 CEST 2014
In the case of both Darwin Core and Audubon Core, they exist in two
forms: a human-friendly version on the web and an official archived
version. For DwC, the human-friendly version is the web pages linked to
http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/ and for AC it's the pages linked to
http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/Audubon_Core . However, technically, the
standard is the set of documents that you get when you download the
archive from the standard's permanent URL,
http://www.tdwg.org/standards/450/ for DwC, and
http://www.tdwg.org/standards/638/ for AC . In the case of AC, the
archive contains the versions of those web pages as they existed at
ratification. In the case of DwC, it contains the web pages and RDF
documents as they existed after the last Decision that resulted in a
change to the standard
(http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/history/decisions/index.htm
Decision-2013-10-09_13).
This is a somewhat unwieldy system, since a citation of the "permanent
URL" for the standard leads to a version that is difficult to view and
which doesn't necessarily lead to the human-readable websites (although
in the cases of both AC and DwC, there are links to those websites if
one reads the fine print on the standard's cover page). But the point
of the archives is that they contain a version of the standard documents
in the form in which they existed the last time they were officially
approved. For some standards, the archives are the ONLY version that is
viewable at all. So it's important that those official versions be
stored in some immutable form that is not subject to accidental
tinkering or deletion as could happen with a regular website (as we have
seen happen with TAPIR). In the case of DwC, the standard has changed
over time. Those changes can be tracked on a large scale by looking at
the decision history, but on a detailed scale one would have to look at
the Darwin Core Google Code subversion repository (if one knew to look
there and what to look for among the myriad documents stored there).
In my view, the cover pages that resolve from the standards' cover pages
(e.g. http://www.tdwg.org/standards/638/ ) should tell a user how to
locate a human-friendly web-viewable version, as well as how to access
an archive under version control (e.g. git or subversion) that contains
the official record. Not all of the standards have human-friendly web
versions.
Steve
Bob Morris wrote:
> As to Audubon Core (AC), a little clarification is needed.
>
> The only thing so far adopted is the AC data model, more precisely
> "The Audubon Core Multimedia Resources Metadata schema (“AC schema”,
> or simply “AC”) is a set of metadata vocabularies for describing
> biodiversity-related multimedia resources and collections. The
> specification is independent of how these vocabularies may be
> represented for machine use." [1]
>
> In particular, no artifacts akin to such things as the DwC normative
> document [2] have been submitted for approval, nor have artifacts akin
> to Simple Darwin Core [6] though some are under development (*, **).
> In appearance, the AC documents [1, 3 and 4] together are a bit like
> the most useful reference for DwC, namely [5]. But unlike [5], [3
> and 4] are normative ([1] is not/). Those parts of AC are maintained
> in a MediaWiki, and would be relatively pointles to put in a public
> source code repository, perhaps except based on arguments of backup
> sustainability. In such a case, they would be of use only to AC
> maintainers, unless the repo happened to support MediaWiki.
>
>
> Bob Morris
> TDWG Image Interest Group co-convenor and AC <co-something or other>
>
>
> [1] http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/Audubon_Core#Introduction
> [2] http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/rdf/dwctermshistory.rdf
> [3] http://terms.gbif.org/wiki/Audubon_Core_Structure
> [4] http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/Audubon_Core_Term_List
> [5] http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/
> [6] http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/xsd/tdwg_dwc_simple.xsd
>
> (*) Readers beware: [2] is an RDF description of Darwin Core, not an
> RDF description of biodiversity.
> (**) There will be a session devoted to AC at TDWG 2014 which will
> hopefully be attended by those already using AC in one or another
> specific, albeit unsubmitted form.
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, James Macklin
> <james.macklin at gmail.com <mailto:james.macklin at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I am also in favor of the GitHub repo but we really need to hear
> from Stan about the status of the work he was having done on the
> TDWG site. We will need to decide which is the "official" repo but
> as others point out there is likely good reason to have
> duplication! We also need to figure out who has time to do this if
> we go forward. Looks like there have already been a couple of
> hands partly raised ;-)
>
> Best, James
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob at gmail.com
> <mailto:morris.bob at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> That was the answer in June too...
>
> On Sep 22, 2014 9:23 AM, "Kampmeier, Gail E"
> <gkamp at illinois.edu <mailto:gkamp at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>
> Stan Blum is working with contractors on the new TDWG
> site. --Gail
>
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> [tdwg-bounces at lists.tdwg.org
> <mailto:tdwg-bounces at lists.tdwg.org>] on behalf of Dave
> Vieglais [vieglais at ku.edu <mailto:vieglais at ku.edu>]
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 08:20
> To: Tim Robertson
> Cc: TDWG Content Mailing List; tdwg at lists.tdwg.org
> <mailto:tdwg at lists.tdwg.org>; tdwg-tag at lists.tdwg.org
> <mailto:tdwg-tag at lists.tdwg.org>; Stoner, Dan
> Subject: Re: [tdwg] [tdwg-tag] another poke about Audubon
> Core status
>
> Would a GitHub organization satisfy the requirements of
> the TDWG site?
>
> - Dave V.
>
> On 22 Sep 2014, at 8:46, Tim Robertson wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > Thanks for your offer.
> >
> > As far as I recall, the TDWG executive decided at the
> last meeting to
> > move onto a whole new platform and put contractor money
> aside to make
> > it happen.
> > I’m reluctant to point you at the tangled mess of the
> current system
> > when I suspect it is to be replaced anyway. It really
> is a convoluted
> > mess of Typo3 plugins, which try and keep a bunch of
> backend systems
> > in sync and dues to bugs in there it does not work as
> expected. I
> > really don’t think it is something you want to get into,
> but I
> > sympathise that the TDWG site is broken and no-one is
> maintaining
> > it… a simpler vanilla CMS solution that even requires
> more manual
> > text editing etc. will be a far more manageable solution
> in my
> > opinion.
> >
> > @TDWG Executive folks - is it still the intention to
> contract out and
> > do a basic CMS site?
> > If not, I’ll try and pull up the code but I’d need your
> approval
> > to get him a DB dump as it holds user credentials /
> subscriptions etc.
> > Please can you advise us? Anything we can do to help?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On 19 Sep 2014, at 23:05, Stoner, Dan
> <dstoner at acis.ufl.edu <mailto:dstoner at acis.ufl.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >> I see in the tdwg-tag mailing list archives that the
> status of the
> >> Audubon Core Standard has been discussed recently:
> >>
> >>
> http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag/2014-June/002558.html
> >>
> >>
> >> So consider this another poke about getting the web
> site updated with
> >> the official status of the Standard.
> >>
> >> If there is anything I can do to facilitate the web
> site update,
> >> please let me know (as in, I am volunteering to hack
> code or whatever
> >> is needed).
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Dan Stoner
> >> iDigBio / ACIS Laboratory
> >> University of Florida
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