[tdwg-content] proposed term: dwc:verbatimScientificName

Peter DeVries pete.devries at gmail.com
Thu Dec 9 18:57:43 CET 2010 

Hi Rich,

You said that the "required" form would be ...

If they don't have the authorship then they cannot output the "required"
form.

Yes. I should have written code in some of those as "Code".

Kind of like "Bible"

Both sets of rules seem to be applied by some in areas where they don't make
sense :-)

Both take on the feeling of "Dogma", for those just trying to make the world
a better place.

Respectfully,

- Pete

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>wrote:

> They cannot provide a verbatimScientificName???? That would imply they have
> no text field whatsoever.
>
>
>
> *From:* Peter DeVries [mailto:pete.devries at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 09, 2010 6:48 AM
> *To:* Richard Pyle
> *Cc:* David Remsen (GBIF); tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-content] proposed term: dwc:verbatimScientificName
>
>
>
> So basically what you are saying is that the entire NCBI taxonomy database
> as well as the ebird database cannot output the required format.
>
>
>
> - Pete
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
> wrote:
>
> I think this is **exactly** the right solution. I would go further to make
> it clear that:
>
>
>
> -          verbatimScientificName is the required field (with
> scientificName and scientificNameAuthorship as optional)
>
> -          When a source database maintains separate fields  corresponding
> to scientificName and scientificNameAuthorship, they should be concatenated
> (with a single space between them) to form the required
> verbatimScientificName
>
>
>
> Aloha,
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> *From:* tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org [mailto:
> tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] *On Behalf Of *David Remsen (GBIF)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:10 AM
> *To:* tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org List
> *Subject:* [tdwg-content] proposed term: dwc:verbatimScientificName
>
>
>
> Markus and I wanted to try to consolidate the issues related to the current
> use and definition of scientificName that have been the focus of last weeks
> discussion in as simple a way as we can and leave it with a simple proposal
> which we will add to the issue tracking on the project site.
>
>
>
> 1. We propose that a new term, dwc:verbatimScientificName carry the
> existing definition for dwc:scientificName and
>
> 2. dwc:scientificName follow the more accepted convention that is better
> represented by the earlier proposed definition for Canonical Name
>
>
>
> The intention is to enable data publishers to distinguish unparsed, complex
> scientific names from more cleanly separated scientific name data.   This
> will relieve consumers of these data from testing each instance of a name
> for one of these two conditions.
>
>
>
> Here are the definitions for the two existing terms that have been part of
> the discussion:
>
>
>
> *dwc:scientificName * - The full scientific name, with authorship and date
> information if known. When forming part of an Identification, this should be
> the name in lowest level taxonomic rank that can be determined. This term
> should not contain identification qualifications, which should instead be
> supplied in the IdentificationQualifier term.
>
>
>
> *dwc:scientificNameAuthorship* - The authorship information for the
> scientificName formatted according to the conventions of the applicable
> nomenclaturalCode.
>
>
>
> Here are terms and definitions used in the following 5 source data
> configurations we came up with.   They don't have to be exact for this
> purpose.
>
>
>
> *canonical name* - The nomenclatural components of a scentific name
> without authorship information.
>
> *authorship* - the authorship information that follows a scientific name
>
> *verbatim name*  - the verbatim text stored in a source database when it
> differs from or combines the two definitions above.  This is a bit more
> broad than the def for scientificName.
>
>
>
> We identified the following configurations in a source database and how
> they would be mapped to the existing terms.  In cases 4 and 5 we also
> propose how we would map these were there a 3rd available term (called
> 'mapping b:')
>
>
>
> When a source database contains:
>
>
>
> 1.  canonical names only
>
>
>
> Mapping:  canonical name -> dwc:scientificName
>
>
>
> 2. canonical name and authorship in two fields
>
>
>
> Mapping: canonical name -> dwc:scientificName /
> authorship->dwc:scientificNameAuthorship
>
>
>
> 3. verbatim name only
>
>
>
> Mapping:  verbatim name -> dwc:scientificName
>
>
>
> 4. all three: canonical name, authorship, and verbatim name in 3 diff.
> columns
>
>
>
> Mapping a:  verbatim name -> dwc:scientificName  /
> authorship->dwc:scientificNameAuthorship
>
>
>
> Mapping b:  canonical name -> dwc:scientificName  /
> authorship->dwc:scientificNameAuthorship / verbatim name ->
> dwc:verbatimScientificName
>
>
>
> 5. a mix of canonical and verbatim names in a single column
>
>
>
> Mapping a:  verbatim name + canonical names -> dwc:scientificName
>
>
>
> Mapping b:  verbatim name + canonical names -> dwc:verbatimScientificName
>
>
>
> Summary - with the current two terms are left with no choice but to support
> both canonical and verbatim names in a single term, which makes consuming
> these data difficult.
>
>
>
> We propose that a new term, dwc:verbatimScientificName carry the existing
> definition for dwc:scientificName and that dwc:scientificName follow the
> more accepted convention that is better represented by the definition for
> Canonical Name
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> David Remsen / Markus Döring
>
>
>
>
>
>
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