[tdwg-content] proposed term: dwc:verbatimScientificName

[Richard Pyle]

What we *REALLY* need is a globally shared system for representing taxon
names either as verbatim strings (we could call it something like "Grand
Names Index", or "Glorious Nomenclatural Inventory", or something like
that), or as highly parsed, atomized data objects corresponding to specific
usages of taxon names (we could call it the "Global Nomenclatural Utility
Base", or "Great Names Universal Bucket") coordinated in such a way that
they interact with each other in a common architecture (maybe we could call
it the "Guttenberg Names Analog").

In any case, I think the real solution is to get to the point where we need
only two terms for taxonomic data:

taxonID
verbatimScientificName

As chuck says, it's a tall order...but it sure would reduce the traffic on
the tdwg-content list....

:-)

Aloha,
RIch

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-content-
> bounces at lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Miller
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:55 AM
> To: David Remsen (GBIF); Bob Morris
> Cc: tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org
> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] proposed term: dwc:verbatimScientificName
> 
> Bob,
> Funny.  It starts to sound like the "Levels" that were defined in that
> 94 plant names publication.  They were wrangling back then with how to
> format the different ways the names could occur.  We have some real
> tension going on between having a minimal set of terms while enabling a
> maximal variety of use cases.  I think something has to give somewhere.
> The use cases are not going away.  So, maybe we need to accept a longer
set
> of terms.  One of them might be a "rule used" element as you suggest.
But,
> that would mean the creation of the rules, definition of controlled
vocabulary
> and then implementation into DwC somehow.  Tall order but it may be
> something lacking in DwC that is causing all these late night emails to
fly back
> and forth seemingly endlessly.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of David Remsen
> (GBIF)
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:06 AM
> To: Bob Morris
> Cc: tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org
> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] proposed term: dwc:verbatimScientificName
> 
> The GBIF web parser service is a good step in that direction.
> 
> http://tools.gbif.org/nameparser/
> 
> Select the test names and review the extended output.
> 
> David
> On Dec 9, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Bob Morris wrote:
> 
> >> ...
> >
> >> Obviously, it would be nice if algorithms did exist which could
> >> convert a text string into a scientific name, but this still lies in
> >> the future.
> >
> > For those of us attempting to populate databases with information
> > extracted from published literature, the future is now. It seems to me
> 
> > that normalizing the extraction to some standardized form \before/
> > putting it in the database is more robust than forcing the parsing to
> > be done afterwards.  So we need  rules for those forms, and an
> > unambiguous way in our metadata to cite which rules have been
> > followed.  In a previous post my p.s. also whined about a similar need
> 
> > for born-digital taxonomic treatments.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> >
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