[tdwg-content] DarwinCore 1.4 & 'lots'

[Kehan Harman]

Thanks John that makes it a lot clearer.
Cheers,
Kehan


On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:54 PM, John R. WIECZOREK <tuco at berkeley.edu> wrote:
> Dear Kehan and others,
>
> Lots are supported in all versions of Darwin Core in a simple way,
> through the IndividualCount. The information about this term in the
> proposed Darwin Core can be found in the Quick Reference Guide at
> http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm#IndividualCount. Detailed
> information about this concept, including all of the preceding
> versions and the mapping to/from ABCD can be found in the Complete
> History Guide at
> http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/history/index.htm#IndividualCount-2008-11-19.
>
> In the case(/bottle/box/jar/tube/freezer ;-) ) where a lot is composed
> of individuals of more than one ScientificName
> (http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm#ScientificName) all under the
> same catalog number, the recommendation is to apply the ScientificName
> that accurately captures all of the samples in the cataloged
> container. For example, if you had a cataloged box of sweat bees you
> would put the number of individuals in the box in IndividualCount and
> "Halictidae" in the ScientificName.  Any other attributes not shared
> by all individuals in the lot could be captured at the level of
> specificity shared by all individuals. Alternatively, such information
> could be captured by enumerating the range of values represented in
> the lot. For example, if the hypothetical box of sweat bees had both
> adult individuals on pins and larvae in vials, Preparations
> (http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm#Preparations) could be
> populated with "whole animal (pinned), whole animal (ETOH)".
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Kehan Harman <kehanharman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> Markus has asked me to pass this on to this shiny new mailing list as
>> it's the list that's designed for this kind of query. I'm working as
>> part of the Scratchpads project (http://scratchpads.eu) and we're
>> wanting to update our specimen module which is currently based on
>> DarwinCore 1.2.1. We'd like to be able to support the concept of
>> 'lots' within this module and were wondering whether DarwinCore and/or
>> the curatorial extensions for it (or ABCD for that matter) support
>> this.  A 'lot' is for example a jar of  specimens of n number of
>> species, and this is often the lowest level to which specimens get
>> curated. I'm pretty sure this is taken into account by DarwinCore but
>> just wanted to find out if you know the mapping for this. Markus
>> indicated that with DwC it would only support one name per record. I
>> know that people on this list will have had to deal with this at the
>> application level so maybe you could share how you've done it within
>> your institutions.
>>
>> thanks
>> Kehan Harman
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Markus Döring (GBIF)" <mdoering_at_gbif.org>
>> Date: Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: DarwinCore 1.4 & 'lots'
>> To: Kehan Harman <kehanharman_at_gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Kehan,
>> its not dwc specific really, the problem is known since ages also in
>> ABCD. As far as I remember a "unit" in ABCD is anything the museum
>> curator decides to be a unit. Basically what gets a catalog number. So
>> a single dwc record could represent multiple specimen in case they are
>> "hidden" behind a single catalog number. Thats what I think at least,
>> John Wiezoreck might disagree, better ask him in person. Best would be
>> to use the new tdwg-conten meiling list which is exactly for this.
>> Problem with a single dwc record is of course that only one scientific
>> name applies. Please post this problem to the list, its good for all
>> of us to share the same idea of what a "lot" becomes.
>>
>> markus
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 17:35, Kehan Harman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Markus,
>>> Not sure how familiar you are with entomological collections, but
>>> Simon and Vince are looking at the scratchpads specimen module
>>> (currently based on DarwinCore 1.3) and one thing that they'd like to
>>> know about DarwinCore (& the proposed version) is whether it supports
>>> the concept of 'lots' out of the box. A lot is for example a jar of
>>> specimens of n number of species, and this is often the lowest level
>>> to which specimens get curated. I'm pretty sure this is taken into
>>> account by DarwinCore but just wanted to find out if you know the
>>> mapping for this (or who I should talk to to find this out)? The
>>> reason I'm emailing you is you're one of the contributors on
>>> http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/index.htm.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kehan
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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