[tdwg-spm] Broken SPM in TDWG repo

[Eamonn O Tuama]

Please move all further discussion to the SPM list at TDWG
(tdwg-spm at lists.tdwg.org) so that we can be more inclusive and ensure that
items are archived for future reference. We should also start making use of
the SPM wiki again (http://wiki.tdwg.org/SPM/) as the focal point for
sharing information.

Éamonn

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Morris [mailto:morris.bob at gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 July 2008 06:58
To: Markus Döring
Cc: Terry Catapano; Dave Thau; Roger Hyam; Eamonn O Tuama
Subject: Re: Broken SPM in TDWG repo

Thanks. Current looks OK as to RDF.  It, and parts (all?) of the LSID
voc and the TDWG core are OWL Full when they are meant to be and
probably easily could be OWL DL. Possibly nobody but me and Dave Thau
care about such things right now....Certainly it doesn't impede
plazi's project to generate SPM from TaxonX.

The Manchester Wonder Web OWL Species Validator pointed out to me by
Dave gives lots of hints that are probably easy to address. See
http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator  Some "FIXME" notes in core
ontolgies seem to suggest that Roger knew this and ran out of time to
address it. Most issues seem to be lack of explicit typing and lack of
separation of classes from instances. See also
http://wonderweb.semanticweb.org/owl/rdf.shtml. I'll look into it at
my leisure.

More important is to get some discussion going about the InfoItems.

Bob


On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Markus Döring <mdoering at gbif.org> wrote:
> thanks bob,
> I am moving between different machines currently so I dont have much
> software installed.
> It should be changed now, would you mind to make sure its ok like this? it
> is valid rdf according to w3c.
> markus
>
> On Jul 4, 2008, at 5:22 AM, Bob Morris wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> You need to change the prefixes 'tbase' to 'base' in the  InfoItems
>> you moved. 'tbase' has no namespace associated with it in the
>> SPMInfoItem file.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Markus Döring <mdoering at gbif.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ive updated the files in the repo, removing duplicate InfoItems in the
>>> SPMInfoItem file.
>>> markus
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Eamonn O Tuama wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Markus, for undertaking this. I think following Bob's proposal
>>>> is
>>>> the way to proceed.
>>>> The original list of InfoItem categories as agreed at the SPM workshop
>>>> is
>>>> more or less what is in the main list at
>>>> http://rs.tdwg.org/ontology/voc/SPMInfoItems.rdf . But I agree that it
>>>> would
>>>> be good to re-visit this to see if it can be improved.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Éamonn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Markus Döring [mailto:mdoering at gbif.org]
>>>> Sent: 03 July 2008 14:20
>>>> To: Bob Morris
>>>> Cc: Terry Catapano; Eamonn O Tuama; Roger Hyam; Gregor Hagedorn;
Patrick
>>>> Leary
>>>> Subject: Re: Broken SPM in TDWG repo
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>> the SPMInfoItems.rdf file was an alternative to the fewer infoitems
>>>> listed in the SpeciesProfileModel.rdf
>>>> The discussion about which items we really need was never finished as
>>>> far as I am aware. So thats why there are duplicates and non consitent
>>>> names between the two files.
>>>>
>>>> I agree it would be better to keep the core SpeciesModelProfile free
>>>> of this issue and move all InfoItem classes to the separate file. If
>>>> noone objects I will change the SVN according to Bobs proposal. And it
>>>> would be good to get a discussion started about the basic infoitems
>>>> that TDWG should provide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Markus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 2, 2008, at 6:03 AM, Bob Morris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had a pass at fixing the breakage in the current SPM. See
>>>>> http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/SPM/BrokenSpm
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be really good if this or something like it got into the SVN
>>>>> repo and be served (and critiqued...). If somebody gives me SVN URL
>>>>> and prvilege, I will do it. Meanwhile, I suggest we work with what I
>>>>> put on the wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Robert A. Morris
>>>>> Professor of Computer Science
>>>>> UMASS-Boston
>>>>> ram at cs.umb.edu
>>>>> http://bdei.cs.umb.edu/
>>>>> http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram
>>>>> http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram/calendar.html
>>>>> phone (+1)617 287 6466
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robert A. Morris
>> Professor of Computer Science
>> UMASS-Boston
>> ram at cs.umb.edu
>> http://bdei.cs.umb.edu/
>> http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram
>> http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram/calendar.html
>> phone (+1)617 287 6466
>>
>
>



-- 
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