GUID Persistence as Zen kōan
For those of you who can take any more of it I have posted my thoughts on persistence of GUIDs to my blog.
http://www.hyam.net/blog/archives/346
If you don't have the time or patience to read it the summary is:
GUID Persistence == diddly squat
Your comments are welcome.
All the best,
Roger
Roger,
I think we should start think how to improve the situation. In my opinion the situation could significantly improved if there would be some audit method, thus certificate for trustworthy GUIDs. There are several initiatives working on audit methods for long term archives why not adopting such a procedure for LSID authorities? I have posted some ideas in my blog here: http://stratigraphynet.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-trust-persitence-of-guids...
best regards, Robert
2009/4/23 Roger Hyam rogerhyam@mac.com:
For those of you who can take any more of it I have posted my thoughts on persistence of GUIDs to my blog.
http://www.hyam.net/blog/archives/346
If you don't have the time or patience to read it the summary is:
GUID Persistence == diddly squat
Your comments are welcome.
All the best,
Roger
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Hi Robert,
I would rather have a GUID that resolves than one with a certificate. Tools like Rod's bioGUID status page are the way to go
More of a consumer watchdog than regulator. It may transpire that such a service becomes so accepted it has the authority to 'bless' data suppliers but I believe that to be a long way off.
What I imagine would happen with a regulation is big organisations would throw resources at getting the certificate whilst small organisations and one-man-bands would actually provide as good or better services but not have certificates.
All the best,
Roger
On 24 Apr 2009, at 10:05, Robert Huber wrote:
Roger,
I think we should start think how to improve the situation. In my opinion the situation could significantly improved if there would be some audit method, thus certificate for trustworthy GUIDs. There are several initiatives working on audit methods for long term archives why not adopting such a procedure for LSID authorities? I have posted some ideas in my blog here: http://stratigraphynet.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-trust-persitence-of-guids...
best regards, Robert
2009/4/23 Roger Hyam rogerhyam@mac.com:
For those of you who can take any more of it I have posted my thoughts on persistence of GUIDs to my blog.
http://www.hyam.net/blog/archives/346
If you don't have the time or patience to read it the summary is:
GUID Persistence == diddly squat
Your comments are welcome.
All the best,
Roger
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Hi Roger,
I would rather have a GUID that resolves than one with a certificate. Tools like Rod's bioGUID status page are the way to go
More of a consumer watchdog than regulator. It may transpire that such a service becomes so accepted it has the authority to 'bless' data suppliers but I believe that to be a long way off.
A GUID provider has to prove persistence by being persistent ? So we would need a _certified_ watchdog ;)
What I imagine would happen with a regulation is big organisations would throw resources at getting the certificate whilst small organisations and one-man-bands would actually provide as good or better services but not have certificates.
It depends on the audit method, if you take a look at the criteria for long term archives there surely are several criteria a one man band would never meet. But if you think of long term persistence (>decades) it is most likely that a one man band will not be able to ensure persistence - at least not beyond the lifetime of this person.. Btw. I forgot to mention the _english_ TRAC list of criteria (http://www.crl.edu/PDF/trac.pdf) in my blog.
best regards, Robert
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