Dear all, I took the liberty to modify TAPIR to use the controlled voc [required | accepted | denied] for the logRequest attribute. Ive also added a new optional attribute "alias" to the mapped concepts of a capabilities response. This can be used to advertise the short alias of a concept as known by a CNS. -- Markus -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Javier privat Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 12:05 An: Döring, Markus Cc: Renato De Giovanni; wixner@gmail.com Betreff: Re: AW: concept alias in capas for me is fine if it helps. On 8/3/06, "Döring, Markus" <m.doering@bgbm.org> wrote:

what do you think, I got 1 day left for work. do you mind adding aliases? I like it and it eases playing with TAPIR a lot.

-- Markus

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Döring, Markus Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. August 2006 17:33 An: 'Renato De Giovanni' Cc: Javier privat Betreff: AW: AW: concept alias in capas

correct. its just to let the clients know that there is an alias existing in the CNS(es) being used by the provider. so they dont have to interact with any CNS.

-- Markus

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Renato De Giovanni [mailto:renato@cria.org.br] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. August 2006 16:44 An: Döring, Markus; Javier privat Betreff: Re: AW: concept alias in capas

Hi Markus,

Then I probably didn't understand your suggestion... Right now capabilities come out like: ... <schema namespace="http://www.tdwg.org/schemas/abcd/1.2" location="http://www.bgbm.org/TDWG/CODATA/Schema/ABCD-1.20.xsd"> <mappedConcept

id="/DataSets/DataSet/DatasetDerivations/DatasetDerivation/DateSuppl ie

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d" searchable="true"/> ...

Ok, ok. After reading your message again I think I see. You're suggesting to add an optional attribute "alias" that would make something like:

... <schema namespace="http://www.tdwg.org/schemas/abcd/1.2" location="http://www.bgbm.org/TDWG/CODATA/Schema/ABCD-1.20.xsd"> <mappedConcept

id="/DataSets/DataSet/DatasetDerivations/DatasetDerivation/DateSuppl ie

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d" searchable="true" alias="DateSupplied"/> ... So DateSupplied would be the corresponding concept abbreviation according to a previously specified CNS. Is this what you suggest? An optional shortcut to find out the aliases?

Originally I had the impression that you were suggesting to include aliases there in such a way that clients would be forced to interact with a CNS to figure out the actual concept ids... -- Renato

On 2 Aug 2006 at 16:02, "Döring, Markus" wrote:

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Hmm. not sure if i get you. first thing, aliases are always optional. second, a client needs to know what he is asking for. Currently I dont know any other place as the CNS for this. it simply lists all concepts with qualified name & alias if it exists. i cant see any additional burden for a client here.

-- Markus

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Renato De Giovanni [mailto:renato@cria.org.br] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. August 2006 14:59 An: Döring, Markus; Javier privat Betreff: Re: concept alias in capas

Hi Markus,

For sure there are many ways we could do that, and cleaner XML documents also look better to human eyes. The only thing is that it will put an additional burden on clients - if I understood well, in these cases clients will now need to know how to interact with a CNS, is that correct?

It's different than the other way around, when providers advertise: "look, I know how to interact with this CNS, so if you want to send a cleaner document feel free to do so because I can take the additional burden".

(by the way, I'll probably not include any CNS capabilities in TapirLink at this moment)

So in principle I would prefer to keep capabilities response as it is. Maybe not the best thing for human eyes, but still easier to be processed and consumed by other programs.

What do you think? -- Renato

On 2 Aug 2006 at 11:16, "Döring, Markus" wrote:

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hey guys, one more thing I found on my list. If we use concept aliases it would be nice and helpful if they would also show up in the capabilities, wouldnt it? so why dont we add an "alias" attribute to element mappedConcept?

-- Markus