Dear all,
Below is Doug Fils answer to my questions on the CHRONOS LSID efforts.. I tried to send this to the old listserver.. thanks Ricardo for reminding us to use the new address!
It seems as if LSIDs are (independently our efforts) on their way to become a de facto standard for such purposes? Well,another reason _not_ to think about switching to PURLs ;) All in all this sounds very interesting and it is another, promising way to bring the paleo/geo and bio data communities together..
Robert
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Douglas Fils [mailto:fils@iastate.edu] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. April 2006 16:43 An: Robert Huber Cc: TDGW Listserver; Cinzia Cervato Betreff: Re: CHRONOS, GNS LSID
Robert et al. Wow.. people actually read those news items. :) If this is a way to get me to reply to your email of 4/13 Robert, it worked. ;) I do appreciate you sending me that info by the way and I am looking forward to increasing connections between CHRONOS and both Pangaea and S.net. Let me prefix the rest of this email by saying what I am going to talk about here is a joint effort with GNS Science New Zealand.
Ok, let me just bullet out a few points here in case people areinterested. I have been to a TDWG meeting or two (was at the Christchurch meeting). I very much enjoyed them.
a) First, thanks for referencing me the URL: http://wiki.gbif.org/guidwiki/wikka.php?wakka=HomePage I have
looked it
over and liked what I saw. I think I actually saw some of these presentations in Christchurch.
b) CHRONOS is working with GNS and using UID's as an element of a different project. This project is the TSDF or Taxonomic Synonymy Definition Framework. This is an RDF (based on SKOS) file
that will be
used to encode synonymy information for exchange between GNS
and CHRONOS
(initially) and then also used internally as a means to pass synonymy information around to other searches and services (web services and ReST) inside CHRONOS. Beyond that we intend to use use some of the RDF tools from the MIT Simile effort for working with these files.
We need the GUIDs in this effort to ensure that we are notmixing up
different taxa from different sites and also that we can consistently resolve individual taxa across multiple locations and create sets of synonymous (or explicitly not synonymous) taxa that remain valid. We also need to associate these with the author as different people may (will) have different ideas of what taxa are and are not synonymous.
Obviously then we would begin to expand out use of these UID's intomany other aspects of CHRONOS. In discussion with our developers we already see the windfall this would give us in our SOA environment and out to the various tools groups we are working with.
c) This RDF format will be made public soon and I am talking about it at the Geoinformatics 2006 meeting May 10-12 in Reston Virginia. So obviously I have to get some stuff pulled together on that and out to the public here soon. We will place what we have on-line at CHRONOS at that time. If anyone here will be at that meeting I would be happy to meet with them.
d) ok, back to UID's. Yes, we want to use UID's.... yes we
also like
the LSID model and are basing our efforts off that. I would _love_ to leverage what we are both doing. I will look forward to hearing what occurred at the GUID-2 workshop.
If anyone has any questions, please feel free to get in touch with me.
take care doug
Robert Huber wrote:
Dear all,
I found this message on the CHRONOS news pages:
'Taxonomic Synonymy efforts with GNS New Zealand': CHRONOS is implementing URNs (Uniform Resource Names) of taxon names as a means to connect multiple sources of taxonomic data. Initial tests include Neptune, the Mesozoic Planktonic Foraminifera Taxonomic Database, and FRED, the paleontological database of the Geoscience and Nuclear Sciences in New Zealand. Modeled after the Life Science Identifiers (LSID), taxonURNs are unique IDs.
http://chronos.org:8080/chronosRSS/jsp/chronosRSS.jsp?mode=rss_2.
0&url=55&id
=chronos.rss
I cc this message to Cinzia and Doug from CHRONOS.. hey, I hope you both are OK? It would be great if you could join the TDWG mailinglist and give us some more details on that effort..
best regards, Robert
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