This is a very important discussion to be having, whatever list is used.
In fact, I was going to bring this discussion to the attention of colleagues who are not on the list, but I find that the tdwg-content list archive here:
http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/
has no content after Sept 11, 2010. The same is true for tdwg-tag. The discussion is going to go down the memory hole if this doesn't get fixed.
Arlin
On Oct 6, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Markus Döring wrote:
I am wondering if this discussion and similar rdf, lsid topics should continue on tdwg-tag rather than tdwg-content. We might bore quite a few people...
On Oct 6, 2010, at 17:13, Peter DeVries wrote:
Some people might find the N3 serialization useful.
It simply lists the subject, predicate and object followed by a period.
It is somewhat easier to interpret, and can be easy to make. You can even create this with apps like FileMaker Pro.
You can then take this N3 form and convert it to RDF using online tools or standard libraries.
Many if not most of the triple / quad stores can read in the n3 form directly.
Here is an example that links a species concept to a geographical location. (in both directions)
http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/ <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#hasExpectationOf
http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#isExpectedIn
- Pete
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bob Morris morris.bob@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Peter DeVries pete.devries@gmail.com wrote:
[...] I think part of the problem we are having is that people are not recognizing how different RDF is from straight XML. ...
It's way worse than that. RDF is not XML at all. RDF/XML is merely a serialization of RDF It's not even the most human readable serialization. In fact it is one of the \worst/ for humans who need to figure out what triples are actually in play. It is so ubiquitous only because there are more tools that can process RDF/XML than any of the other RDF serialization syntaxes (syntices???). The persistent myth that human readability is an advantage of XML pretty much ignores all the use cases that humans have for reading something. It's about as readable as Lisp. Indeed, a Lisp loving colleague said of XML on the occasion of its first W3 recommendation : "I get it. It's Lisp with pointy brackets."
Bob
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