I agree.
But before characterizing with finality, the professional rank of our community in its efforts here (professional, amateur, cottage, fan boys), I think we need to allow for the funding and evaluation context within which we strive. Our community relies on grant support, whereas book and journal publishers, aggregators, libraries, etc. have a huge economic incentive to create a stable ID and cross-linkage infrastructure.
Show me a foundation that understands the value of investing in long-term, stable, supported *research community-enabling*, international, cyberinfrastructure and in the importance of measuring its impact, and I'll show you people with insight and vision. Moore Foundation with its modest but vital funding of TDWG 4-5 years ago displayed such a flash of insight.
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-----Original Message----- From: tdwg-tag-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-tag-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Roderic Page Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:08 AM To: Hilmar Lapp Cc: Garry.Jolley-Rogers@csiro.au; Kevin Richards; Technical Architecture Group mailing list Subject: Re: [tdwg-tag] SourceForge LSID project websites broken -role forTDWG?
I think it's one of the major failings of our community that we haven't dealt with the issue (both technically and socially) of providing stable, resolvable GUIDs for the things we care about, and that each major initiative that comes along (e.g., GBIF, EOL) says it's not their problem to solve. Creating shiny new web sites is obviously more fun, but by comparison with what the publishing industry has achieved with DOIs and CrossRef, we are a bunch of amateurs.
Regards
Rod
On 31 Mar 2009, at 14:33, Hilmar Lapp wrote:
On Mar 31, 2009, at 12:55 AM, Gregor Hagedorn wrote:
http://lsid.tdwg.org/urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:names:510023 will work as a clickable link to a web resource and can be read by semantic web machine reasoners.
Incidentally, it doesn't because apparently the lsid.tdwg.org server is down.
If we imagine a biodiversity semantic web where all LSIDs are proxied through http://lsid.tdwg.org that server better be set up in a way that it won't easily take down everything with it whenever it has a hiccup. Is TDWG committed to creating and supporting that infrastructure?
-hilmar
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