Hi all,
I would like to ask you to take a look at the abstract one more time. Wesley did a major rearranging (OPTION 2, some description below). I want to make sure everybody agrees...also in regarding the authors.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17aj... [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/ADP-6oEiMin53Or6vohQ7FHBNAzVXHHxnfBrY...]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Abstract - TDWG2023https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Instructions! https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2023/instructions-for-abstract-submission/ Title: Want to describe share biodiversity inventory and monitoring data? The Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories can help! Please complete your name and affiliation Authors: Yi-Ming Gan1, Kate In... docs.google.com
I will submit later today or even tomorrow morning (July 1st) to give you more time to review
Thanks a lot
Yani
---mail and explanation from Wesley
Hi Yani and Ming,
If this message looks like something that is relevant for the entire group, could you please forward it to the Humboldt Extension listserv? I'm writing to both of you because Yani you should be aware of what I've done sooner rather than later, and Ming because I saw that you were viewing the document while I was also mucking around with it.
Somehow, I ended up experimenting with a major reorganization of the material in the existing abstract, while (hopefully) not deleting any information, and adding little new information (the exception being the fourth and fifth sentences). I have pasted my experimental reoganization of the material below the current version, and I have written a long comment linked to the first word in my experiment. Unfortunately, it's impossible to see where the original text remained, where parts of the original text were moved, or where I made additions, because I made a local copy of the original and then copied the end result back...and all of the change-tracking colour information disappeared.
Anyway, as I wrote at the end of my comment, you absolutely should treat what I did as an experiment in creating a new order of presentation of the ideas in the original version, and use the new organization, or not, to the extent that you see fit.
Oh, and regarding English versus U.S. spelling, I'm definitely the worst person to ask, because the spelling all looks Canadian (i.e. a British-U.S. hybrid) to me.
Wesley
******************* Wesley Hochachka Senior Research Associate Cornell Lab of Ornithology ph. (607) 254-2484 *******************
Dear Yani
Wesley did a great job reorganizing the abstract but I believe you are the primary mover and organizer and therefore should be first author. I suggest that John be added as a co-author. His participation and insights have helped significantly.
Thanks Yani, Steve and others for steering us towards completion.
Rob
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 6:18 AM ys628 yanina.sica@yale.edu wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to ask you to take a look at the abstract one more time. Wesley did a major rearranging (OPTION 2, some description below). I want to make sure everybody agrees...also in regarding the authors.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17aj...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Abstract - TDWG2023 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Instructions! https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2023/instructions-for-abstract-submission/ Title: Want to describe share biodiversity inventory and monitoring data? The Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories can help! Please complete your name and affiliation Authors: Yi-Ming Gan1, Kate In... docs.google.com
I will submit later today or even tomorrow morning (July 1st) to give you more time to review
Thanks a lot
Yani
---mail and explanation from Wesley
Hi Yani and Ming,
If this message looks like something that is relevant for the entire group, could you please forward it to the Humboldt Extension listserv? I'm writing to both of you because Yani you should be aware of what I've done sooner rather than later, and Ming because I saw that you were viewing the document while I was also mucking around with it.
Somehow, I ended up experimenting with a major reorganization of the material in the existing abstract, while (hopefully) not deleting any information, and adding little new information (the exception being the fourth and fifth sentences). I have pasted my experimental reoganization of the material below the current version, and I have written a long comment linked to the first word in my experiment. Unfortunately, it's impossible to see where the original text remained, where parts of the original text were moved, or where I made additions, because I made a local copy of the original and then copied the end result back...and all of the change-tracking colour information disappeared.
Anyway, as I wrote at the end of my comment, you absolutely should treat what I did as an experiment in creating a new order of presentation of the ideas in the original version, and use the new organization, or not, to the extent that you see fit.
Oh, and regarding English versus U.S. spelling, I'm definitely the worst person to ask, because the spelling all looks Canadian (i.e. a British-U.S. hybrid) to me.
Wesley
Wesley Hochachka Senior Research Associate Cornell Lab of Ornithology ph. (607) 254-2484
tdwg-humboldt mailing list tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org https://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-humboldt
I like V2 very much, and I agree with Rob – imho Yani as a first “drive” author, John as a last author? Placeholder suggestions added. DS
From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org On Behalf Of Rob Stevenson Sent: Friday, 30 June, 2023 12:50 To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023 Abstract
Dear Yani
Wesley did a great job reorganizing the abstract but I believe you are the primary mover and organizer and therefore should be first author. I suggest that John be added as a co-author. His participation and insights have helped significantly.
Thanks Yani, Steve and others for steering us towards completion.
Rob
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 6:18 AM ys628 <yanina.sica@yale.edumailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu> wrote: Hi all,
I would like to ask you to take a look at the abstract one more time. Wesley did a major rearranging (OPTION 2, some description below). I want to make sure everybody agrees...also in regarding the authors.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17aj... [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/ADP-6oEiMin53Or6vohQ7FHBNAzVXHHxnfBrY...]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Abstract - TDWG2023https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Instructions! https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2023/instructions-for-abstract-submission/ Title: Want to describe share biodiversity inventory and monitoring data? The Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories can help! Please complete your name and affiliation Authors: Yi-Ming Gan1, Kate In... docs.google.comhttp://docs.google.com
I will submit later today or even tomorrow morning (July 1st) to give you more time to review
Thanks a lot
Yani
---mail and explanation from Wesley
Hi Yani and Ming,
If this message looks like something that is relevant for the entire group, could you please forward it to the Humboldt Extension listserv? I'm writing to both of you because Yani you should be aware of what I've done sooner rather than later, and Ming because I saw that you were viewing the document while I was also mucking around with it.
Somehow, I ended up experimenting with a major reorganization of the material in the existing abstract, while (hopefully) not deleting any information, and adding little new information (the exception being the fourth and fifth sentences). I have pasted my experimental reoganization of the material below the current version, and I have written a long comment linked to the first word in my experiment. Unfortunately, it's impossible to see where the original text remained, where parts of the original text were moved, or where I made additions, because I made a local copy of the original and then copied the end result back...and all of the change-tracking colour information disappeared.
Anyway, as I wrote at the end of my comment, you absolutely should treat what I did as an experiment in creating a new order of presentation of the ideas in the original version, and use the new organization, or not, to the extent that you see fit.
Oh, and regarding English versus U.S. spelling, I'm definitely the worst person to ask, because the spelling all looks Canadian (i.e. a British-U.S. hybrid) to me.
Wesley
******************* Wesley Hochachka Senior Research Associate Cornell Lab of Ornithology ph. (607) 254-2484 *******************
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-- Robert D Stevenson Associate Professor Department of Biology UMass Boston
The revision looks great to me! Steve
-- Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 37235, USA
Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair https://baskauf.github.io/
From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of ys628 yanina.sica@yale.edu Date: Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:18 AM To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org, wmh6@cornell.edu wmh6@cornell.edu Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023 Abstract Hi all,
I would like to ask you to take a look at the abstract one more time. Wesley did a major rearranging (OPTION 2, some description below). I want to make sure everybody agrees...also in regarding the authors.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17aj... [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/ADP-6oEiMin53Or6vohQ7FHBNAzVXHHxnfBrY...]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Abstract - TDWG2023https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Instructions! https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2023/instructions-for-abstract-submission/ Title: Want to describe share biodiversity inventory and monitoring data? The Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories can help! Please complete your name and affiliation Authors: Yi-Ming Gan1, Kate In... docs.google.com
I will submit later today or even tomorrow morning (July 1st) to give you more time to review
Thanks a lot
Yani
---mail and explanation from Wesley
Hi Yani and Ming,
If this message looks like something that is relevant for the entire group, could you please forward it to the Humboldt Extension listserv? I'm writing to both of you because Yani you should be aware of what I've done sooner rather than later, and Ming because I saw that you were viewing the document while I was also mucking around with it.
Somehow, I ended up experimenting with a major reorganization of the material in the existing abstract, while (hopefully) not deleting any information, and adding little new information (the exception being the fourth and fifth sentences). I have pasted my experimental reoganization of the material below the current version, and I have written a long comment linked to the first word in my experiment. Unfortunately, it's impossible to see where the original text remained, where parts of the original text were moved, or where I made additions, because I made a local copy of the original and then copied the end result back...and all of the change-tracking colour information disappeared.
Anyway, as I wrote at the end of my comment, you absolutely should treat what I did as an experiment in creating a new order of presentation of the ideas in the original version, and use the new organization, or not, to the extent that you see fit.
Oh, and regarding English versus U.S. spelling, I'm definitely the worst person to ask, because the spelling all looks Canadian (i.e. a British-U.S. hybrid) to me.
Wesley
******************* Wesley Hochachka Senior Research Associate Cornell Lab of Ornithology ph. (607) 254-2484 *******************
Version 2 looks great!
From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org On Behalf Of ys628 Sent: Friday, 30 June 2023 8:19 PM To: Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org; wmh6@cornell.edu Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023 Abstract
Hi all,
I would like to ask you to take a look at the abstract one more time. Wesley did a major rearranging (OPTION 2, some description below). I want to make sure everybody agrees...also in regarding the authors.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17aj... [Image removed by sender.]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Abstract - TDWG2023https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Yqz4pwRksvaL_pDVlXTnOZG6w5fEDKIO0FKV17ajhdU/edit Instructions! https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2023/instructions-for-abstract-submission/ Title: Want to describe share biodiversity inventory and monitoring data? The Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories can help! Please complete your name and affiliation Authors: Yi-Ming Gan1, Kate In... docs.google.com
I will submit later today or even tomorrow morning (July 1st) to give you more time to review
Thanks a lot
Yani
---mail and explanation from Wesley
Hi Yani and Ming,
If this message looks like something that is relevant for the entire group, could you please forward it to the Humboldt Extension listserv? I'm writing to both of you because Yani you should be aware of what I've done sooner rather than later, and Ming because I saw that you were viewing the document while I was also mucking around with it.
Somehow, I ended up experimenting with a major reorganization of the material in the existing abstract, while (hopefully) not deleting any information, and adding little new information (the exception being the fourth and fifth sentences). I have pasted my experimental reoganization of the material below the current version, and I have written a long comment linked to the first word in my experiment. Unfortunately, it's impossible to see where the original text remained, where parts of the original text were moved, or where I made additions, because I made a local copy of the original and then copied the end result back...and all of the change-tracking colour information disappeared.
Anyway, as I wrote at the end of my comment, you absolutely should treat what I did as an experiment in creating a new order of presentation of the ideas in the original version, and use the new organization, or not, to the extent that you see fit.
Oh, and regarding English versus U.S. spelling, I'm definitely the worst person to ask, because the spelling all looks Canadian (i.e. a British-U.S. hybrid) to me.
Wesley
******************* Wesley Hochachka Senior Research Associate Cornell Lab of Ornithology ph. (607) 254-2484 *******************
participants (5)
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Baskauf, Steven James -
Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) -
Dmitry Schigel -
Rob Stevenson -
ys628