Hey John and all!

Yes, since we are getting so close to finishing the full revision of terms. It might be a good time to update the IPT with the new HC terms to start testing. Not sure how straightforward that is but we wanted to start discussing it.

Also, Steve shared quite a lot of information regarding the following steps in the TDWG ratification process. Thanks for that Steve! I started a document here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_l-hKbk2c-YCx7KhxHuwtAamZzE5X30c3lazW9kejZ8/editwith that info.

Cheers,

Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 12:45 PM John Wieczorek tuco@berkeley.edu wrote:

Hi Yani,

I am curious about the "reach out to John and Tim" part. Anything I can do sooner than later?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 2:42 PM Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu wrote:

...

Hi all,

Thanks for a wonderful meeting this week. It was very useful to help us plan forward.

Below you will find a tentative schedule for our next meetings:

• We will move to weekly meetings until the end of the year
  • you should have received an invitation with updated Zoom link
    • Zoom link https://yale.zoom.us/j/97318391101
    https://www.google.com/url?q=https://yale.zoom.us/j/97318391101&sa=D&source=calendar&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw131_ZV9o-84ivZDjGbSTBJ (starting Nov 24)
    • We will present the current status of the HC extension next

week in TDWG Working groups - *Wed 17 Nov 0800 EST* - Please register to TDWG working sessions to get the link - Planning meeting on *Monday at 4pm EST* - Zoom link https://yale.zoom.us/j/94488694314 https://www.google.com/url?q=https://yale.zoom.us/j/94488694314&sa=D&source=calendar&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw3parP7UK1U0PA7gkkX2Rsu - We will dedicate a meeting to discuss 'Site' related terms and concepts, and other terms that pose some difficulty (see github issues: https://github.com/tdwg/hc) - *Wed 24 Nov 0800 EST*

• Invite Diana Bowler to share the results of her survey
  • potentially *Wed 1 Dec 0800 EST*
• Reach out to John and Tim to update the IPT to match revised terms

Thanks again and see you all next week!

Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers

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One thing that wasn't included in what I sent Yani (because it wasn't done) is a draft "test suite". That's probably deceptively named, but it's basically the information we want to collect from test implementers of the Views controlled vocabularies. Here's what I have so far:

https://github.com/tdwg/ac/blob/master/views/test-suite.md

I plan to turn it into a Google Form that implementers can fill out when they are done. Essentially, it is to determine which "features" of the controlled vocabularies they actually wanted or were able to use in their tests. The goal would be to use the input from the forms to generate a table something like the "Vocabulary Usage" section of https://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html which would allow one to see at a glance which of the features of the controlled vocabularies people were actually successful at implementing.

In theory, any unimplementable features would be dropped from the vocabulary. I think this may have been the case for "member" and "memberList" which I don't think were included in the final SKOS specification. Of course, they had a large number of implementers and my task group probably won't. So there may be some features that will eventually used by developers that wouldn't necessarily be used if people tested it "by hand".

Anyway, at the HC meetings, we have frequently said stuff like "people will need/want to do X". So in the case of HC, we'd make a list of all of the "X's" and then ask test implementers to say whether they actually were able to do X with the vocabulary or not. As painful as it may be, we probably need to get rid of X if nobody can make it work, even if it's something we love in theory.

Steve

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From: tdwg-humboldt tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org on behalf of Yanina Sica yanina.sica@yale.edu Date: Friday, November 12, 2021 at 12:23 PM To: John Wieczorek tuco@berkeley.edu, Humboldt Core TG tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting schedule and plans! Hey John and all!

Yes, since we are getting so close to finishing the full revision of terms. It might be a good time to update the IPT with the new HC terms to start testing. Not sure how straightforward that is but we wanted to start discussing it.

Also, Steve shared quite a lot of information regarding the following steps in the TDWG ratification process. Thanks for that Steve! I started a document here https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1_l-hKbk2c-YCx7KhxHuwtAamZzE5X30c3lazW9kejZ8%2Fedit&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C264d58f64ebf4094d1b708d9a6097650%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C637723381843364980%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kW8NWv1yiml8927gORa04IEaz3SRHOQL2cYsQA7JTWk%3D&reserved=0 with that info.

Cheers,

Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 12:45 PM John Wieczorek <tuco@berkeley.edumailto:tuco@berkeley.edu> wrote: Hi Yani,

I am curious about the "reach out to John and Tim" part. Anything I can do sooner than later?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 2:42 PM Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@yale.edumailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu> wrote: Hi all,

Thanks for a wonderful meeting this week. It was very useful to help us plan forward.

Below you will find a tentative schedule for our next meetings:

* We will move to weekly meetings until the end of the year

* you should have received an invitation with updated Zoom link

* Zoom link https://yale.zoom.us/j/97318391101https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fq%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fyale.zoom.us%2Fj%2F97318391101%26sa%3DD%26source%3Dcalendar%26usd%3D2%26usg%3DAOvVaw131_ZV9o-84ivZDjGbSTBJ&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C264d58f64ebf4094d1b708d9a6097650%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C637723381843364980%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=isqns0IWxUElMO%2BdWsM8POjV1UbqlACO9%2FR1O3B0zoM%3D&reserved=0 (starting Nov 24)

* We will present the current status of the HC extension next week in TDWG Working groups

* Wed 17 Nov 0800 EST

* Please register to TDWG working sessions to get the link

* Planning meeting on Monday at 4pm EST

* Zoom link https://yale.zoom.us/j/94488694314https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fq%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fyale.zoom.us%2Fj%2F94488694314%26sa%3DD%26source%3Dcalendar%26usd%3D2%26usg%3DAOvVaw3parP7UK1U0PA7gkkX2Rsu&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C264d58f64ebf4094d1b708d9a6097650%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C637723381843374973%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YzRQI%2FFMEZSxJOAFx%2FEluJgIFjubMjOSmkvakN9pa%2BU%3D&reserved=0

* We will dedicate a meeting to discuss 'Site' related terms and concepts, and other terms that pose some difficulty (see github issues: https://github.com/tdwg/hchttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftdwg%2Fhc&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C264d58f64ebf4094d1b708d9a6097650%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C637723381843374973%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BipP9pMtI5wByeV0ErXK%2BXMR3mzhIF0b1qL5tWXFhZw%3D&reserved=0)

* Wed 24 Nov 0800 EST

* Invite Diana Bowler to share the results of her survey

* potentially Wed 1 Dec 0800 EST

* Reach out to John and Tim to update the IPT to match revised terms Thanks again and see you all next week!

Yanina V. Sica, PhD Data Manager | Map of Life Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers

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