Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation
Hi all, This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo or http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG. This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem. I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction. Thoughts? -- Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 37235, USA Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair https://baskauf.github.io/ From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org> on behalf of ys628 <yanina.sica@yale.edu> Reply-To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55 PM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>, "wmh6@cornell.edu" <wmh6@cornell.edu> Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 15 February 2023, 08:00 EST/13:00 UTC Hi valentines! I hope everybody is great. 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I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James < steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
Hi all,
This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either
http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo
or
http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo
which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG.
This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem.
I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction.
Thoughts?
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Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University
Nashville, TN 37235, USA
Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair
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Hi valentines!
I hope everybody is great.
Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items:
- review *taxonomic scope related terms *(see slide 13 and 14 here <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0> ) - discuss the need for *isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?)* (slide 15 here <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0>) --> john is still thinking about this - discuss the need for *IdentificationConfidence *(slide 15 here <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0> ) - start writing the implementation report!!
See you soon!
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Great suggestion! I agree and am very supportive of the change in namespace removing Humboldt. Is a combination of your suggestions too much? ecoInv maybe? Yani On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM John Wieczorek <tuco@berkeley.edu> wrote:
I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James < steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
Hi all,
This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either
http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo
or
http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo
which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG.
This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem.
I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction.
Thoughts?
--
Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his
Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III
Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University
Nashville, TN 37235, USA
Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair
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Hi valentines!
I hope everybody is great.
Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items:
- review *taxonomic scope related terms *(see slide 13 and 14 here <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0> ) - discuss the need for *isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?)* (slide 15 here <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0>) --> john is still thinking about this - discuss the need for *IdentificationConfidence *(slide 15 here <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0> ) - start writing the implementation report!!
See you soon!
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I think shorter is better, although ecoinv: isn’t that long. The Linked Open Vocabularies https://lov.linkeddata.es/dataset/lov website, where I normally go to see what abbreviations people are using seems to be down. I don’t know if that is temporary or permanent. I’ll try check the various suggestions later. I agree with John that if eco: isn’t used, we should jump on it. It is simple and memorable. Steve -- Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 37235, USA Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair https://baskauf.github.io/ From: Yanina Sica <yanina.sica@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:59 AM To: "tuco@berkeley.edu" <tuco@berkeley.edu>, Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> Cc: Steve Baskauf <steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu>, "wmh6@cornell.edu" <wmh6@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation Great suggestion! I agree and am very supportive of the change in namespace removing Humboldt. Is a combination of your suggestions too much? ecoInv maybe? Yani On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM John Wieczorek <tuco@berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu>> wrote: I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James <steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu<mailto:steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu>> wrote: Hi all, This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Feco%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C9b0c1a1230db45dc169b08db0f65327d%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120699555884234%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2F%2F8po3KRtBTJCNJ2iKcj73Tpa915U73nj2yQJ9IwCpo%3D&reserved=0> or http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Finv%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C9b0c1a1230db45dc169b08db0f65327d%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120699555884234%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xVKB%2FJBGgmWtml3qCvf5YLiilWif%2FAcz4QK%2FZs0Qs10%3D&reserved=0> which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG. This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem. I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction. Thoughts? -- Steven J. 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I hope everybody is great. Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items: * review taxonomic scope related terms (see slide 13 and 14 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C9b0c1a1230db45dc169b08db0f65327d%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120699555884234%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=laolzmPleH5121D%2FsGt27vzI6rlJ20tnqRZNj0UhZr4%3D&reserved=0>) * discuss the need for isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?) 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I’m supportive of this too and I like “eco” more than any of the other proposed abbreviations. However, as John suggests, that might already be taken. If eco is not available, perhaps using “inventory” in full would be more intuitive and explicit. Peter From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org> On Behalf Of Yanina Sica Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 8:00 AM To: tuco@berkeley.edu; Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> Cc: wmh6@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation Great suggestion! I agree and am very supportive of the change in namespace removing Humboldt. Is a combination of your suggestions too much? ecoInv maybe? Yani On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM John Wieczorek <tuco@berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu>> wrote: I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James <steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu<mailto:steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu>> wrote: Hi all, This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo or http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG. This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem. I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction. Thoughts? -- Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 37235, USA Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair https://baskauf.github.io/ From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>> on behalf of ys628 <yanina.sica@yale.edu<mailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu>> Reply-To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55 PM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>>, "wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>" <wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>> Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 15 February 2023, 08:00 EST/13:00 UTC Hi valentines! I hope everybody is great. Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items: * review taxonomic scope related terms (see slide 13 and 14 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0>) * discuss the need for isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?) (slide 15 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0>) --> john is still thinking about this * discuss the need for IdentificationConfidence (slide 15 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0>) * start writing the implementation report!! 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I should have taken the time to fully read the whole thread and other related emails before commenting, there seems to be general agreement to settle on something more descriptive anyway. I’m cool with majority view. Peter From: Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 10:00 AM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>; tuco@berkeley.edu Cc: wmh6@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation I’m supportive of this too and I like “eco” more than any of the other proposed abbreviations. However, as John suggests, that might already be taken. If eco is not available, perhaps using “inventory” in full would be more intuitive and explicit. Peter From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>> On Behalf Of Yanina Sica Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 8:00 AM To: tuco@berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu>; Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>> Cc: wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation Great suggestion! I agree and am very supportive of the change in namespace removing Humboldt. Is a combination of your suggestions too much? ecoInv maybe? Yani On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM John Wieczorek <tuco@berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu>> wrote: I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James <steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu<mailto:steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu>> wrote: Hi all, This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo or http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG. This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem. I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction. Thoughts? -- Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 37235, USA Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair https://baskauf.github.io/ From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>> on behalf of ys628 <yanina.sica@yale.edu<mailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu>> Reply-To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55 PM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>>, "wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>" <wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>> Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 15 February 2023, 08:00 EST/13:00 UTC Hi valentines! I hope everybody is great. Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items: * review taxonomic scope related terms (see slide 13 and 14 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0>) * discuss the need for isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?) (slide 15 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0>) --> john is still thinking about this * discuss the need for IdentificationConfidence (slide 15 here<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9gs2H3yaxGxKSIt%2F%2B2JcFZAqXBEgrpa%2FEPgbmg2BGFI%3D&reserved=0>) * start writing the implementation report!! See you soon! Zoom link: https://yale.zoom.us/j/97318391101<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fq%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fyale.zoom.us%2Fj%2F97318391101%26sa%3DD%26source%3Dcalendar%26usd%3D2%26usg%3DAOvVaw131_ZV9o-84ivZDjGbSTBJ&data=05%7C01%7Csteve.baskauf%40vanderbilt.edu%7C0a93192f9b90497f9fc708db0ec54d9c%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C0%7C638120013586411182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hluV6fjieHVZeiWJgOXQ05qRFquS79RVTVFRHYfo%2BQw%3D&reserved=0> Yani Yanina V. 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+1 with Peter :) I feel threatened by the intelligence of ChatGPT hahaha! I also like “eco”! “inv” is nice too but I feel like not everyone uses the term inventory, so “inv” may not be intuitive for some. The first word that comes to my mind with “inv” was “invertebrate” hahaha! Thanks for thinking about this Steve! Happy to hear that this team is in your mind even during shower! Cheers Ming On 16 Feb 2023, at 00:05, Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <Peter.Brenton@csiro.au> wrote: I should have taken the time to fully read the whole thread and other related emails before commenting, there seems to be general agreement to settle on something more descriptive anyway. I’m cool with majority view. Peter From: Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 10:00 AM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>; tuco@berkeley.edu Cc: wmh6@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation I’m supportive of this too and I like “eco” more than any of the other proposed abbreviations. However, as John suggests, that might already be taken. If eco is not available, perhaps using “inventory” in full would be more intuitive and explicit. Peter From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>> On Behalf Of Yanina Sica Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 8:00 AM To: tuco@berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu>; Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>> Cc: wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation Great suggestion! I agree and am very supportive of the change in namespace removing Humboldt. Is a combination of your suggestions too much? ecoInv maybe? Yani On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM John Wieczorek <tuco@berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu>> wrote: I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James <steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu<mailto:steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu>> wrote: Hi all, This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Feco%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C0faa8c601bf1497873ce08db0fa931cd%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638120992691524550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QpEEFTH7O%2BYR2%2FBkzIXZ%2FDBYwqCT%2Bh5gmhlZBCM1mUc%3D&reserved=0> or http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Finv%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C0faa8c601bf1497873ce08db0fa931cd%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638120992691524550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Oy8ZyBhJ1sorqr6dxw1m8EiT4Fexul4RxPTGlQLmP1Q%3D&reserved=0> which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG. This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem. I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction. Thoughts? -- Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 37235, USA Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair https://baskauf.github.io/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbaskauf.github.io%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C0faa8c601bf1497873ce08db0fa931cd%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638120992691524550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=lPaJuYHZjy4Om3am123Ti0zgQaByOnJyvyISa92jrY0%3D&reserved=0> From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>> on behalf of ys628 <yanina.sica@yale.edu<mailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu>> Reply-To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55 PM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>>, "wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>" <wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>> Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 15 February 2023, 08:00 EST/13:00 UTC Hi valentines! I hope everybody is great. Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items: * review taxonomic scope related terms (see slide 13 and 14 here<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C0faa8c601bf1497873ce08db0fa931cd%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638120992691524550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Kxb80r2nK6qYP1UWmJN7zrNcrc6uVrYBsWYNV1DJqvs%3D&reserved=0>) * discuss the need for isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?) (slide 15 here<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C0faa8c601bf1497873ce08db0fa931cd%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638120992691524550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Kxb80r2nK6qYP1UWmJN7zrNcrc6uVrYBsWYNV1DJqvs%3D&reserved=0>) --> john is still thinking about this * discuss the need for IdentificationConfidence (slide 15 here<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C0faa8c601bf1497873ce08db0fa931cd%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638120992691524550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Kxb80r2nK6qYP1UWmJN7zrNcrc6uVrYBsWYNV1DJqvs%3D&reserved=0>) * start writing the implementation report!! See you soon! Zoom link: https://yale.zoom.us/j/97318391101<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fq%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fyale.zoom.us%2Fj%2F97318391101%26sa%3DD%26source%3Dcalendar%26usd%3D2%26usg%3DAOvVaw131_ZV9o-84ivZDjGbSTBJ&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C0faa8c601bf1497873ce08db0fa931cd%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638120992691524550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vYCG9iMoobfBn4xUCAAJpe0PE7ooOGT5bbr3j%2FWslvM%3D&reserved=0> Yani Yanina V. 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Thanks for engaging so actively in this topic! (from getting ideas in the shower to artificial intelligence...this group is amazing!) I was not sure if everybody was getting the emails with the options and responses so I created a small survey to make sure everybody votes. It is anonymous (at least I think so..) and takes less than a minute. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/humboldtTDWG We can discuss the results next week! best! Yanina V. Sica, PhD Lead Data Team Map of Life<https://mol.org/> | Center for Biodiversity and Global Change<https://bgc.yale.edu/> Yale University pronouns: she/her/hers If you are receiving this email outside of your working hours, I am not expecting you to read or respond. ________________________________ From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org> on behalf of Yi Ming Gan <ymgan@naturalsciences.be> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 9:39 AM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org> Cc: tuco@berkeley.edu <tuco@berkeley.edu>; wmh6@cornell.edu <wmh6@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation +1 with Peter :) I feel threatened by the intelligence of ChatGPT hahaha! I also like “eco”! “inv” is nice too but I feel like not everyone uses the term inventory, so “inv” may not be intuitive for some. The first word that comes to my mind with “inv” was “invertebrate” hahaha! Thanks for thinking about this Steve! Happy to hear that this team is in your mind even during shower! Cheers Ming On 16 Feb 2023, at 00:05, Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) <Peter.Brenton@csiro.au> wrote: I should have taken the time to fully read the whole thread and other related emails before commenting, there seems to be general agreement to settle on something more descriptive anyway. I’m cool with majority view. Peter From: Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 10:00 AM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>; tuco@berkeley.edu Cc: wmh6@cornell.edu Subject: RE: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation I’m supportive of this too and I like “eco” more than any of the other proposed abbreviations. However, as John suggests, that might already be taken. If eco is not available, perhaps using “inventory” in full would be more intuitive and explicit. Peter From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>> On Behalf Of Yanina Sica Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2023 8:00 AM To: tuco@berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu>; Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>> Cc: wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Extension namespace abbreviation Great suggestion! I agree and am very supportive of the change in namespace removing Humboldt. Is a combination of your suggestions too much? ecoInv maybe? Yani On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM John Wieczorek <tuco@berkeley.edu<mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu>> wrote: I really like your idea. Solves all kinds of issues. I'll be surprised if "eco:" isn't already in common use, but if it isn't, we should jump on it. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:44 AM Baskauf, Steven James <steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu<mailto:steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu>> wrote: Hi all, This is a follow-up to the brief discussion at the end of our meeting today. I had an idea in the shower (where I frequently have creative thoughts – must be something about being more relaxed) about what to use as a short abbreviation for Humboldt extension IRIs. As an official name for Humboldt, we call it the “Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories” or something like that. That already has the benefit of telling people what it’s about. Then for the abbreviation we either use “eco” or “inv” as the abbreviation instead of “humboldt” or “hmbldt”. That would make the IRIs either http://rs.tdwg.org/eco/term/foo<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Feco%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HILrmpN8mfuDz7MokJlQ1Lb0U9FwpE7cd3EXXICGUw8%3D&reserved=0> or http://rs.tdwg.org/inv/term/foo<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frs.tdwg.org%2Finv%2Fterm%2Ffoo&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=oY5UdUs31EEdZJ1kmJ7L6B2dNepdIeklfl9OX5R%2B4Ug%3D&reserved=0> which would be abbreviated as “eco:foo” or “inv:foo” respectively, following the established patterns we already are using in TDWG. This would have the added benefit of not confusing anybody if we suddenly discover that Humboldt was an evil space alien or something and decide we don’t want to name the extension after him anymore. Yes, I know that sounds weird, but Audubon Core is rebranding as Audiovisual Core and fortunately we can still use “ac:” without confusing anybody. This solution would also dodge that potential future problem. I haven’t checked to see if “eco” or “inv” are already being used by any well-known vocabularies, but I’ll do that if this idea gets any traction. Thoughts? -- Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN 37235, USA Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical Architecture Group Chair https://baskauf.github.io/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbaskauf.github.io%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=z1BK%2FszauO3WQEZrN0Sy6LurhGigQHSSJuAoKgsQS0M%3D&reserved=0> From: tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org>> on behalf of ys628 <yanina.sica@yale.edu<mailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu>> Reply-To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>> Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55 PM To: Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org<mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>>, "wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>" <wmh6@cornell.edu<mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu>> Subject: [tdwg-humboldt] Humboldt Task Group Meeting Wed 15 February 2023, 08:00 EST/13:00 UTC Hi valentines! I hope everybody is great. Let meet tomorrow and discuss the following items: * review taxonomic scope related terms (see slide 13 and 14 here<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=P9IslKStULPc4PbxsikP9XtEUvRmB%2BRcXv5FgeA3Zz4%3D&reserved=0>) * discuss the need for isReportedAbundanceAdditive (?) (slide 15 here<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982597824%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=P9IslKStULPc4PbxsikP9XtEUvRmB%2BRcXv5FgeA3Zz4%3D&reserved=0>) --> john is still thinking about this * discuss the need for IdentificationConfidence (slide 15 here<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F18n83tttDvWDLI5UM30LIsfqrbpH5nbyrwIKjuUY_glE%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.g2037ee016fb_3_0&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982754077%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=6561My4WKaw2Bqifgy5rXXdCB%2FyFgyrmBIT5FIFkQ%2BM%3D&reserved=0>) * start writing the implementation report!! See you soon! Zoom link: https://yale.zoom.us/j/97318391101<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fq%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fyale.zoom.us%2Fj%2F97318391101%26sa%3DD%26source%3Dcalendar%26usd%3D2%26usg%3DAOvVaw131_ZV9o-84ivZDjGbSTBJ&data=05%7C01%7Cyanina.sica%40yale.edu%7Cdefb69c78f0441864d3908db102bab78%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638121551982754077%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MIOe9p3DdHyrJNkYxN4aTX4WucSJW7%2B1eyWnQNHyHAA%3D&reserved=0> Yani Yanina V. 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Baskauf, Steven James -
Brenton, Peter (NCMI, Black Mountain) -
John Wieczorek -
Yanina Sica -
Yi Ming Gan -
ys628