On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Peter DeVries <
pete.devries@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> You are missing one of the main benefits of Linked Data.
> Users do not want to curate their own bibliographic databases and related
> RDF, they want to simply link to a globally unique, resolvable identifier
> for that citation.
> For example: Felis concolor Linnaeus 1771
> Linnaeus 1771 <= What specific publication is this?
> "Felis concolor" hasOriginalDescription
> <
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/citation/234123412>
> If the BHL exposed semantic web URI's for each publication, then content
> experts could search the BHL, find it, and then link to it with a simple
> resolvable URI.
> The alternative is that Steve, et al., will create their own identifiers for
> specific publications, code their own local bibliographic databases.
> In essence, each group or individual then continues to duplicate the efforts
> of others.
> Right now, I have duplicated your functionality in my species concepts.
> Ideally, I would have done this:
> <SpeciesConcept> hasOriginalDescription
> <
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/citation/234123412>
> <SpeciesConcept>
> hasRevisionalDescription <
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/citation/234124356>
> Not only are my concepts then linked to your citations, any other data sets
> that link to your citations are findable.
> For instance, who else has data sets that link to this citation?
> To see how this works on the live LOD cloud check out.
http://bit.ly/fChHwJ
> Browse through the related Linked Data Sets - in particular the has close
> match links.
> - Pete
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Chris Freeland <
Chris.Freeland@mobot.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Ooops, to clarify my very last example, we actually would support "Pallas
>> 1767" if properly parsed:
>>
>>
>>
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/openurl?aulast=Pallas&date=1767&format=xml
>>
>> What we don't yet support & need to is linking at article citation level.
>> That's where our newly (quietly) launched CiteBank
http://citebank.org comes
>> in, and what we're hoping to receive funding to expand.
>>
>> Chris
>> ________________________________
>> From:
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>> [mailto:
tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Chris Freeland
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:57 PM
>> To: Peter DeVries; Steve Baskauf
>> Cc:
tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org
>> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] GUIDs for publications (usages and names)
>>
>> Steve, Pete, et al.,
>>
>> BHL has an OpenURL resolver that can accept a variety of input criteria &
>> return matching records with responses in JSON (with or without callback),
>> XML, HTML, or a direct link. Documentation is here:
>>
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/openurlhelp.aspx
>>
>> And linked from our broader documentation here:
>>
http://biodivlib.wikispaces.com/Developer+Tools+and+API
>> Here's an example, referenced in the documentation, for querying on a
>> monograph/book:
>>
>>
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/openurl?genre=book&title=Manual+of+North+American+Diptera&aufirst=Samuel+Wendell&aulast=Williston&publisher=New+Haven+:J.T.+Hathaway,&date=1908&spage=16&format=xml
>>
>> You can also query based on common abbreviations, like Sp. Pl.:
>>
>>
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/openurl?stitle=Sp.%20Pl.&date=1753&format=xml
>>
>> MOBOT's Tropicos uses the OpenURL resolver to link to protologues, as in
>> this example:
>>
http://www.tropicos.org/Name/2735114
>>
>> With Tropicos we have an authority record for each journal or monographic
>> title. We match Tropicos' TitleID to BHL's TitleID & use that as a more
>> direct link to the appropriate reference, but still send collation & other
>> info to get to the appropriate page, as in this link:
>>
>>
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/openurl?pid=title:626&volume=5&issue=&spage=244&date=1830
>>
>> I know that this is insufficient for zoology & other natural sciences
>> beyond botany, where we need to be able to support citations like "Pallas
>> 1767", which may or may not be preparsed into appropriate fields. A known
>> problem, for sure, and one that we're eager to address, pending funding from
>> NSF.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Chris Freeland | Director, Center for Biodiversity Informatics | Missouri
>> Botanical Garden
>> 4344 Shaw Blvd. | St. Louis, Missouri 63110 | 314.577.9548
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From:
tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org
>> [mailto:
tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Peter DeVries
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:33 PM
>> To: Steve Baskauf
>> Cc:
tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org
>> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] GUIDs for publications (usages and names)
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>> I have been lobbying the BHL for this for some time. Most recently in this
>> blog post.
>>
>>
http://www.taxonconcept.org/taxonconcept-blog/2010/8/5/why-linked-open-data-makes-sense-for-biodiversity-informatic.html
>>
>> What I have realized is that, for many works that are out of copyright,
>> Google books has already scanned and converted them to PDF.
>> You can use these, even extract the relevant PDF pages as long as you keep
>> the Google watermark.
>> This is what I have done for the Cougar.
>>
http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/v6n7p.html
>>
>> For more recent works you may be able to link to the article PDF. As in
>> this spider example.
>>
http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/2mqjL.html
>>
>> We also need a URI for to uniquely identify authors and in the absence of
>> a better solution, I have been using, and in some cases creating, entries in
>> Wikipedia which currently has over 5,000 taxonomic author profiles.
>> This results in usable RDF via DBpedia. As you can see in the RDF in this
>> example.
>>
http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/v6n7p.rdf
>>
>> And in the Knowledge Base
>>
>> <
http://lsd.taxonconcept.org/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flod.taxonconcept.org%2Fses%2Fv6n7p%23OriginalDescription
>> >
>> That said, I have also been experimenting with this.
>>
http://lod.taxonconcept.org/people/sci_people_1700.rdf
>>
>> About: Carl Linnaeus
http://bit.ly/gLgElf
>> - Pete
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Steve Baskauf
>> <
steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was reviewing some of the previous posts on taxon name usages in an
>>> attempt to understand them better. I have learned that the Global Names
>>> Index is an attempt to catalog taxon names and that it is possible to
>>> generate a URI that points to a name there. Is there a parallel effort
>>> to do the same thing for literature references? In other words, if I
>>> want to describe the TNU:
>>> Andropogon virginicus L. sec. Radford et al. (1968)
>>> I think I could find a URI GUID for the name Andropogon virginicus .
>>> But is there some place where I could find a unique identifier, or
>>> better a URL, or best a URI providing RDF/XML for Linnaeus 1753 (the
>>> author and publication for the name) and for Radford et al.1968 (the
>>> author and publication that expresses the usage I'm intending).
>>>
>>> I suppose that this question has previously been answered in the in the
>>> many posts on taxon names, concepts, etc. However, since usually my
>>> brain goes numb and my eyes glaze over in those threads, I probably
>>> missed it.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
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