OK, then we're in agreement.
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From: Peter DeVries [mailto:pete.devries@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:15 AM To: Richard Pyle Cc: tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] An individual identified to a higher group like Order, is still an instance of a species - just a species that is currently unspecified
Hi Rich,
I have not actually tried the #Set or occurrenceCount to see if it works as expected in a triplestore>
Assuming this is for one of those #Set occurrences, a jar of fish all identified to the level of Perciformes it could be plural.
This does not say that they are all the same species, it just says that they are some species that falls within Perciformes.
- Pete
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Richard Pyle deepreef@bishopmuseum.org wrote:
Right, but that's only one of two types of "identified as Perciformes" circumstances. The other is, "there are many different species represented, but all fall within my taxon concept circumscription for Perciformes".
So the key question becomes: is your use of the word "species" in "Order Perciformes species undetermined" necessarily singular, or might it also be plural?
Aloha, Rich
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From: tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Peter DeVries Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:08 PM To: tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org Subject: [tdwg-content] An individual identified to a higher group like Order, is still an instance of a species - just a species that is currently unspecified
What I would recommend is that you treat a specimen that is identified to an order (Perciformes) with something like the following.
Species => Order Perciformes species undetermined.
The individual is still an instance of a species, however that species has yet to be determined.
What would work best is to have some standard way of writing the green string above.
This would allow the occurrences that are of individuals identified only to the Order Perciformes, to be interpreted as a species that falls somewhere within the Order Perciformes.
- Pete
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