I think it is important to consider the purpose of both Darwin Core and DwC archives in deciding whether or not to expand them, but we should use that consideration to address the question at hand, which is whether or not to add an Event core and additional properties to describe events.
Describing the exchange format before the semantics is the wrong way to go, given that we now have a framework for developing semantics. Expanding Darwin Core before we adequately model survey data is bound to lead to problems later, when we try to retro-fit the semantics to Darwin Core Event archives. This is exactly the problem we are running into now with Occurance archives, and we have the opportunity to avoid it.
I suggest we first use existing ontologies to model survey data, then deal with if and how to exchange that information in DwC-A. This is what I was hinting at in my first email, but should have said more explicitly.
Ramona
------------------------------------------------------ Ramona L. Walls, Ph.D. Scientific Analyst, The iPlant Collaborative, University of Arizona Research Associate, Bio5 Institute, University of Arizona Laboratory Research Associate, New York Botanical Garden
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Robert Guralnick < Robert.Guralnick@colorado.edu> wrote:
It may be a sensible view for Darwin Core Archives and their intended use, but Tim's email suggests we should be putting the method of delivery ahead of the standard that delivers that content. If this was just about DwC-As, why not develop a survey extension that links each occurrence to information about the survey process using the existing star-schema methods we have in place? Why are we discussing adding terms to the Darwin Core or trying to fully reconfigure what we call an Event? That is what is on the table, not DwC-As and how we use them. Or am I missing something?
Best, Rob
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Ramona Walls rlwalls2008@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, Tim, and yes, DwC-A as a view (but not necessarily the primary archive) of data seems like the right point of view.
Ramona
Ramona L. Walls, Ph.D. Scientific Analyst, The iPlant Collaborative, University of Arizona Research Associate, Bio5 Institute, University of Arizona Laboratory Research Associate, New York Botanical Garden
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Tim Robertson trobertson@gbif.org wrote:
Hi Ramona,
Those are good points, and I’d like to come back to the original thinking behind the DwC-A.
It was designed and intended to be a simple way of exposing a complete *view* of a dataset, primarily for building sophisticated indexes, inventories and allowing basic analytics (e.g. GBIF.org being one sophisticated index). We found that the star schema provided the flexibility to do a lot, and with the bundled metadata (e.g. EML) was enough to trace provenance and allow users to determine if the dataset might be fit for various uses. In many cases this represents the complete (e.g. lossless) view of a dataset.
What we are discussing here are far richer datasets, where shoe-horning content into the star schema becomes lossy for some, although we’re finding other cases where it is indeed lossless. I believe we should be looking to harmonise ontologies / models etc as you mention but in parallel we should define one or more star schema views that can still be used for discovery / reporting / basic analytical purpose, and not long term archival of the dataset. The dataset would then have the canonical rich form and an additional DwC-A view. What I write here is applicable to all content types of course.
Please also note that many people put supplementary files in the DwC-A which are ignored by DwC-A readers but could be a way of keeping the richer view in the bundle. If one wished you can describe those supplementary files in the EML document.
Does this gel with the view of others as well?
Cheers, Tim
On 27 Aug 2014, at 02:55, Ramona Walls rlwalls2008@gmail.com wrote:
I think Matt hit the nail on the head. Although Darwin Core can be used to exchange survey data, it lacks the semantics and structure necessary to archive the data without loss of information. I think the biodiversity community would be better served devoting energy to harmonizing existing technologies such as OGC, OBOE, and BCO, not to mention the many database for storing plot or survey data. The goal should be to preserve the data in the most informative manner possible.
There is a strong a case for wanting to search across all evidence for occurences, including surveys and point occurences, so I can see possible demand for a tool that would extract occurences from survey data to a DwC archive. However, I am very concerned that making a DwC archive the primary exchange format for survey or plot data commits us to a path of losing information from the start, for all but the simplest sampling schemas.
Ramona
Ramona L. Walls, Ph.D. Scientific Analyst, The iPlant Collaborative, University of Arizona Research Associate, Bio5 Institute, University of Arizona Laboratory Research Associate, New York Botanical Garden
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- Re: Darwin Core: proposed news terms for expressing sample data (Matt Jones)
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:52:06 -0800 From: Matt Jones jones@nceas.ucsb.edu Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] Darwin Core: proposed news terms for expressing sample data To: ?amonn ? Tuama [GBIF] eotuama@gbif.org Cc: TDWG Content Mailing List tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org Message-ID: <CAFSW8xkx7uRP9PC2g3= JT_VJanqujH8nPXoz8GXwh+JwKw5Ccw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
This proposal is treading on ground that is quite similar to other observations and measurements standards for data exchange that are already mature, in particular:
- OGC Observations and Measurements (
http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/om)
- Extensible Observation Ontology (OBOE;
https://semtools.ecoinformatics.org/oboe)
The former is a standard and broadly deployed, whereas the latter is part of a research program in the use of ontologies for measurements. Through collaboration between the two projects, they've been modified to be reasonably isomorphic, but O&M uses an XML serialization while OBOE uses an OWL-DL serialization. They largely express the same measurements and sampling model once one gets beyond the terminology differences.
So, I'm wondering if it make much sense to extend Darwin Core, which is at heart an Occurrence exchange syntax, into this measurements area that is well represented by these other existing specifications? I'm curious to hear why people would even want to do this. And if we do go down this path, won't we just end up with a new syntax that does essentially what O&M and OBOE do now?
Matt
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:22 AM, ?amonn ? Tuama [GBIF] < eotuama@gbif.org> wrote:
Hi Rob, Anne, Rich,
I think Markus has answered your question as to why we opted for an
Event
core which is being used in the sense described by Anne and Rich. For
any
event, you can have a list of species in an Occurrence extension and
for
each species, you can include quantity and quantityType, e.g.,
biomass,
etc. The proposed term eventSeriesID was intended for linking together related events, although it now looks like parentEventID might be a
better,
more flexible term. The measurementOrFact extension is a good fit for capturing environmental information relating to an event. See, e.g.,
the
Gialova Lagoon brackish water invertebrate test data set [1] where a
set
of 18 environmental variables, including temp, pH, Rdx, particulate
organic
matter, dissolved oxygen, salinity, chlorophyll-a were measured for
each
sampling station-sampling period combination. An example mapping is:
Id measurementType measurementValue measurementUnit measurementRemarks
IA Tmp (sed) 21.5 degree C Tmp (sed): temperature at the bottom surface
**Controlled vocabularies**
Ideally, the values for samplingUnit and quantityType would be
selected
from controlled vocabularies. This is, effectively, what we do by presenting a small list of values in a drop-down menu. The current
values
are what we derived for example data sets and discussion but they can undoubtedly be extended and improved.
We capture ?bucket? type measures through a combination of
samplingEffort,
samplingGeometry and samplingUnit. For example, a pitfall trap (in a
point
location) left out for 16 days might have samplingEffort: 16, samplingGeometry: point and samplingUnit: day. Three m^2 quadrats in a shore survey might have samplingEffort: 3, samplingGeometry: area and samplingUnit: m^2.
It would be very useful to see your compilation of scope, effort and completeness measures to see if we can express them in our model
and/or if
we need to reconsider our approach.
?amonn
[1] http://eubon-ipt.gbif.org/resource.do?r=ionian-brackish-lagoon
*From:* tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [mailto: tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] *On Behalf Of *Markus D?ring *Sent:* 20 August 2014 23:47 *To:* Robert Guralnick
*Cc:* TDWG Content Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-content] Darwin Core: proposed news terms for expressing sample data
Rob,
this proposal if for monitoring surveys really, not to be confused
with
material samples like environmental or tissue samples which have a
distinct
new dwc class MaterialSample.
We tend to overload the term sampling a lot and it helps treating
material
samples different from pure observational "sampling". That is why the existing Event class was used as the core and classic Occurrence
records as
extensions. A classic example is a vegetation survey where each plot represents an Event record and each recorded species in that plot
will be
an Occurrence extension record with a given quantity. Darwin Core
already
offers individualCount to specify quantity, but it is a very specific
way
of measuring "abundance" restricted to only some use cases. Abiotic measurements about the plot (e.g. soil type, pH, temperature) can be published using the measurements or facts extension linked to the
Event
core.
Markus
On 20 Aug 2014, at 20:08, Robert Guralnick <
Robert.Guralnick@colorado.edu>
wrote:
Anne -- I don't know the answers! These are questions for Eamonn.
I
would presume that a sample could be a jumble of species or even just
water
or soil samples, and biomass would refer to that sample - but maybe
that
isn't a use case being considered? The examples given in the longer document all link an event_id to species name and some measure of
quantity
for that species (to the species, not an individual specimen), so I
assume
that is the prevailing (or only) case?
Best, Rob
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Anne Thessen <annethessen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Rob I would like to respond to your item number 2. From my perspective, I deal with lots of published descriptions of
taxa.
The text might say something like "I saw species A in the Chesapeake
Bay,
the Adriatic Sea and the Indian Ocean and the biomass is 5 - 9
grams". The
biomass range obviously corresponds to at least three different occurrences, but how to divide the biomass data? I would love to be
able to
have an *event* to attach it all to. There is almost two different
levels
of events - a sampling event and a "study event". The "study event"
would
correspond to the type of event I would like to use in the above
example.
It may not be ideal, but for the old literature that might be the
best we
can do. I have to admit that I don't know enough about trawl data to
understand
why an event core would be a problem. It seems that the trawl would
be an
event and each biomass measure (of each fish) would be attached to a separate occurrence which is attached to that event. Am I
understanding
this wrong? btw - I found a workaround for the example I gave, so it's not
impossible
to model with the current structure.... Anne
On 8/20/2014 1:16 PM, Robert Guralnick wrote:
?amonn et al. --- Thanks for the clarifications. I think these help
a ton
but it raises a couple more questions for me.
- I am surprised that you plan to use of MeasurementorFact
extension in
relation to the Event core, which seems like a novel (or perhaps
awkward or
unintended?) mechanism for capturing environmental data, but the same extension was not be seen as relevant for describing samples? Can you explain more about the thinking there?
- There may be a subtle issue here extending "Event" to be more
what you
call a "Sampling Event Core". My read of this is that Darwin Core
serves
as a way to deal with point occurrences and Event reflects the
context of a
single capture event (whether a single observation, or a bulk sample capture). The changes recommended seem to dramatically extend and
change
that meaning? Its simply a question that I don't have answer to, but
is
Darwin Core, the right vehicle to start capturing repeated measures of biomass values from trawls? I don't have answer but man, terms like quantityType (as a property of occurrence?) give me pause.
- Is Sampling Unit a controlled vocabulary? For another project, I
have
looked through - and captured scope, effort and completeness measures
from
- a large number of published biotic area inventories. The vast
majorities
of these are measured in units like bucket hours, or trap nights. Is
a
"bucket" part of SamplingGeometry or Sampling Unit? I'd be happy to
send
along all the many examples of how biotic inventories of an area are completed and perhaps it might be good to see how those might be represented using the terms you are proposing?
Best, Rob
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Pyle <
deepreef@bishopmuseum.org>
wrote:
Same here ? Events are central to the work that we do.
Aloha,
Rich
*From:* tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [mailto: tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] *On Behalf Of *Anne Thessen *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:59 AM *To:* tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org
*Subject:* Re: [tdwg-content] Darwin Core: proposed news terms for expressing sample data
Hello I would just like to comment on *event core*. I've been doing a lot of work translating published data into Darwin
Core.
During that process I've wished several times that I could use Event
as
core. I am happy to hear about that proposed change. It will make it
easier
to model the data I am working with. Anne
On 8/20/2014 7:04 AM, ?amonn ? Tuama [GBIF] wrote:
Hi Rob,
Thank you for the feedback. I have tried to address the two main
issues
you raise below. At the outset, I would like to emphasise that much
of this
work is taking place in the context of the EU BON project which
includes a
task on developing/enhancing tools and standards for data sharing
with a
particular focus on the IPT for publishing sample-based data. So, we
were
constrained by the need to publish sample-based data sets in the
Darwin
Core Archive format and to demonstrate practical application using a working prototype. When the discussion on the TDWG list faded out, we
took
it to our EU BON partners whose requirements were essential input to further development. We recognise that these discussions took place
away
from TDWG (although the TDWG/EU BON contributors overlapped) and this
is
the reason we are presenting the outcomes here for further
consideration.
**Event core**
As the SIGS report indicated, sample data can be modelled in Darwin
Core
Archives using either Occurrence or Event as core. This was the
starting
point for our evaluation but as things progressed the data wrangling
pushed
the model back towards the Event core. We actually went through the exercise of mapping multiple test datasets in an iterative process
spanning
several months' work. In the end, we found that using an Event core
better
matched the typical sample data we were dealing with, allowing use of
a
measurement-or-fact extension to be included for the efficient
expression
of environmental information associated with the event. The choice
comes
down to an Occurrence core or an Event core + Occurrence extension.
In both
cases, the true observation records are Occurrences. The big
difference is
what type the core has and therefore to which kind of records you can attach further facts and extra information with DwC-A extensions. Many sampling datasets have very rich information about the site and
event, so
it is very natural to hang facts from an Event core. When picking the Occurrence core those facts would have to be repeated for each and
every
occurrence record. Moreover, our approach doesn?t stop anyone from
using
the Occurrence core if they so wish. This just provides a different
option
for datasets that better fit an Event core model.
I want to stress that we are not building a ?specific IPT version? to support an Event core but, rather, we adapted the IPT so that it can
be
configured to support any generic ?core + extension? format to enable
its
use for exploration of more data formats. This is part of the core codebase and there were no custom forks of the IPT for this work.
Our view
at GBIF is that if there are significant numbers of data publishers
who are
keen to adopt, promote and use a (any) format, and the tools can be configured to do so, then we should support it, and, if necessary,
use a
custom namespace.
**New terms around abundance**
Yes, the discussion on TDWG did fade out but it was clear that the
term
?abundance? as recommended by the SIGS report (along with abundanceAsPercent) was confusing many when we were looking for
term(s)
that reported quantitative measures of organisms in a sample. It also became clear we would need to be able to state the type of quantity
being
measured. An alternative suggestion for using the MeasurementsOrFact
class
was immediately shot down.
As some of our main use cases were coming from the EU BON project, discussion shifted to that forum and consensus formed about the
currently
proposed terms. It was within this group that the additional terms (samplingGeometry, samplingUnit, eventSeriesID) were proposed and
where we
began testing with sample data sets.
Best regards,
?amonn
*From:* robgur@gmail.com [mailto:robgur@gmail.com robgur@gmail.com]
*On
Behalf Of *Robert Guralnick *Sent:* 19 August 2014 16:56 *To:* ?amonn ? Tuama [GBIF] *Cc:* TDWG Content Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-content] Darwin Core: proposed news terms for expressing sample data
Hi ?amonn --- I am curious about the outcomes presented in the SIGS paper, in particular, this portion of the paper:
"Solutions without introducing an event core in Darwin Core Archives: During the review of the solutions for the uses cases, it became
apparent
that either model could be applied to every use case. The core and extensions bore a complementary relationship and between them could
express
all the required information. The core simply provided the central
anchor
in the star schema from which to join the additional information. Therefore, using the Occurrence core, well established in the GBIF
network
through uptake of the IPT, seemed more appropriate than inventing CollectingEvent as an additional core type."
That SIGS paper has John Wieczorek and you both as authors,
including
many luminaries across the biodiversity standards spectrum. Given the above, its curious to see the EventCore come back again, along with a specific IPT version to support it.
So I see two issues, conflated, in this post you just made. Oneis
the need for an EventCore at all, and the nature of relating Event and Occurrence/Material Sample. The second is the introduction of new
terms,
which seemingly have arrived after debate on similar terms - but
framed
around abundance - stalled a year ago. To my mind, these both
require some
further discussion, because I don't (necessarily) see TDWG community coherence around either issue?
Best, Rob
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 6:11 AM, ?amonn ? Tuama [GBIF] <
eotuama@gbif.org>
wrote:
Dear All,
GBIF is committed to exploring ways in which the IPT and Darwin Core Archive format can be extended for publishing sample-based data sets.
In
association with the EU BON project [1], a customised version of the
IPT
[2] has been deployed to test this using a special type of Darwin Core Archive in which the core is an ?Event? with associated taxon
occurrences
in an ?Occurrence? extension.
The Darwin Core vocabulary already provides a rich set of terms with
many
relevant for describing sample-based data. Synthesising several
sources of
input (GBIF organised workshop on sample data, May 2013 [3],
discussions on
the TDWG mailing list in late 2013; internal discussion among EU BON project partners), five new terms relating to sample data were
identified
as essential. The complete model including these new terms are fully described with examples in the online document ?Publishing sample data using the GBIF IPT? [4].
As a first step towards ratification, we would like to register the
new
terms in the DwC Google Code tracker [5] if there are no major
objections
on this list. The five terms are:
*quantity*: the number or enumeration value of thequantityType
(e.g., individuals, biomass, biovolume, BraunBlanquetScale) per samplingUnit or a percentage measure recorded for the sample.
*quantityType*: : the entity being referred to by quantity,e.g., individuals, biomass, %species, scale type.
*samplingGeometry*: an indication of what kind of space wassampled; select from point, line, area or volume.
*samplingUnit*: the unit of measurement used for reporting thequantity in the sample, e.g., minute, hour, day, metre, metre^2,
metre^3.
It is combined with quantity and quantityType to provide the complete measurement, e.g., 9 individuals per day, 4 biomass-gm per metre^2.
*eventSeriesID*: an identifier for a set of events that areassociated in some way, e.g., a monitoring series; may be a global
unique
identifier or an identifier specific to the series.
Best regards,
?amonn
[1] http://eubon.eu
[3]
http://www.standardsingenomics.org/index.php/sigen/article/view/sigs.4898640
[4] http://links.gbif.org/sample_data_model
[5] https://code.google.com/p/darwincore/issues/list
*?amonn ? Tuama, M.Sc., Ph.D. (eotuama@gbif.org eotuama@gbif.org),
*Senior Programme Officer for Interoperability, *
*Global Biodiversity Information Facility Secretariat, *
*Universitetsparken 15, DK-2100, Copenhagen ?, DENMARK*
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