Hi Teresa,
I would what you refer to as “philosophizing” rather describe as trying to achieve conceptual clarity for the terms to be used and their dependencies. If anything, I consider this the most important part of developing a set of standardized terms. Especially if they come in a bag. In fact, my suggestions to the abstract were aiming to clarify just that. Thank you for accepting these suggestions, I have added myself as co-author now.
I received the same feedback from the organizers: only the presenting author is required to register for the conference.
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Von: dwc-material-sample dwc-material-sample-bounces@lists.tdwg.org Im Auftrag von Teresa Mayfield-Meyer Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2022 15:51 An: Jutta Buschbom jutta.buschbom@statistical-genetics.de Cc: dwc-material-sample@lists.tdwg.org Betreff: [EXT] Re: [dwc-material-sample] TDWG presentation authorship
Jutta and team,
Thanks for your contribution - I definitely added it in! I made this all very vague because I don't know exactly where we will be at the time of the conference. I did not want to over-promise on outcomes we might discuss. If anyone else thinks this sounds negative - please edit or comment! I do plan to talk about the fact that we spent several months philosophizing - that isn't bad, I think it is reality when doing this kind of work and we should accept that as part of the process.
I would like everyone who has participated to sign on as an author if they are already going to TDWG or they are willing to register. I think it is a crappy policy to require all authors to register - and I will bring this up with TDWG in conference surveys. Not all contributors to a presentation are able to attend the actual conference. Maybe go ahead and put yourself down as an author either way - who will be checking?
The abstract is due on Friday, but Steve is traveling that day, so I am trying to get it in today so that it will be one less thing for him to worry about. I'll give everyone until 2PM USA mountain time, then I'll prepare the submission.
Adios,
Teresa J. Mayfield-Meyer Arctoshttps://arctosdb.org/ Community Coordinator ORCiD - 0000-0002-1970-7044https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1970-7044 It's not dead if it has data!
On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 1:59 AM Jutta Buschbom <jutta.buschbom@statistical-genetics.demailto:jutta.buschbom@statistical-genetics.de> wrote: Dear Teresa and Steve, Dear all,
Thank you very much for initiating the abstract for TDWG2022.
Reading it yesterday, I added to it a small aspect that I thought was missing. Likely I have been sufficiently involved to be a potential coauthor. However, I am hesitating to add myself to the list, since I am coorganizer for a symposium and workshop and won't be able to really contribute to the development of the abstract and presentation.
Still, I wonder why nobody has added themselves as coauthors, since my impression had been that we had been/are a rather inspired, good-natured and engaged group.
Currently, the abstract doesn't seem to be a good description of the group's process. It also sounds rather negative. I wonder if I am the only one to perceive it in this way.
Until reading the text today, I thought that the atmosphere in the group had been good, we discussed much more than what originally had been planned (eg. AC, DES, GBIF, DwC "ontology"), however that seemed necessary and productive. For the philosophical/theoretical topics that I focused on, we seemed to share wide overlaps if not general consensus, and did move towards common understanding(s), even if we didn't nail this down explicitly. I thought actually we had the potential for a paper or two in the making. In the end, Teresa, your moderation brought us back to very concretely identify and define terms, the original goal.
SPNHC2022's viral parting gift had me in its grip at the time of the last monthly meeting. Though, the next meeting is in my calendar and I am very interested in the current state of the discussion on the iSample vocabularies, having their application to GRSciColl in the back of my mind.
We are actually a pretty large group, let's be as communicative and productive with the abstract and presentation as we have been throughout.
Best wishes,
Jutta
On 29.06.22 00:07, Teresa Mayfield-Meyer wrote:
TDWG MaterialSample Task Group Member,
The abstract for our presentation at the TDWG 2022 SYM15 Information session about late-stage Task Group submissions of standards additions is due on Friday. I need to determine who to list as authors on this brief presentation that will review what we have done to date. Anyone who’s participated substantively in the discussions could be co-authors, however, I believe that there is a requirement that co-authors be registered for the conference and that’s a minimum of 120 euros for remote participation and more for in-person. So whoever wants to be a co-author would have to be willing to pony up that amount. If you want to be a co-author please add your name and details just under mine and Steve's in the draft in process here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1coVwKWy-m4OEiIsT2KhxH3irRr8UWfmZavRdlL-Mnp4/edit?usp=sharingby noon on Thursday. Feel free to comment or edit the abstract itself as well.
Thanks everyone!
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