Dear Elspeth and colleagues,
There is one moment regarding MIDS level 2  that concerns me.
Considering the current mapping,
(1: MIDS Level 0) mids:PhysicalSpecimenID, besides others, corresponds to dwc:catalogNumber and dwc:occurrenceID
while
(2: MIDS Level 2) mids:CollectingNumber corresponds to dwc:fieldNumber and dwc:recordNumber.
 
I believe this is somewhat confusing because dwc:occurrenceID is not about physical specimen identification, but rather about the identification of a specific record within a particular dataset. In its general logic, dwc:occurrenceID is closest to dwc:recordNumber and therefore these two terms should be mapped together.
Mapping dwc:occurrenceID to mids:PhysicalSpecimenID results in issues, like in the attached screenshot, when the dataset cannot reach MIDS level 2 because there is data in dwc:catalogNumber and dwc:occurrenceID, which are mapped together, but there is no data about dwc:fieldNumber (not all specimens have their field numbers assigned) or dwc:recordNumber (not all records require additional ID besides occurrenceID to be assigned). Most of the GBIF datasets I am managing have no dwc:fieldNumber (number assigned to specimen in the field) or dwc:recordNumber (an identifier given to the dwc:Occurrence at the time it was recorded, which serves as a link between field notes and a dwc:Occurrence record).


Probably, the easiest way to resolve this issue is to migrate dwc:catalogNumber from mids:PhysicalSpecimenID to mids:CollectingNumber. However, such a solution is a compromise. The best, but probably complicated, solution is to introduce an additional term for MIDS for representing identifiers for records, not for physical specimens. Then, to map dwc:occurrenceID and dwc:recordNumber to this new MIDS term (named e.g., mids:RecordID) and place it at MIDS level 3.
In this way, we can resolve logical inconsistencies and place all record-related IDs at level 3 to match IRI purposes, while keeping all specimen-related data in levels 0-2.

Best regards, Andriy

пт, 12 груд. 2025 р. о 10:01 Elspeth Haston <EHaston@rbge.org.uk> пише:

Hi everyone

 

Our last MIDS meeting of the year will be next Thursday, 18th December.

 

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We will then start the meetings again in January. The first meeting in the new year will be on Monday 5th January, although we realise that not everyone will be back at work yet – we’ll open the meeting in case anyone wants to start the year with some great discussion about digitisation 😊

 

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