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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Rupert<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sorry I didn’t specifically address your idea about
mentors in my last post. It’s a darn good notion, but I fear that the
techies who are the ones who know the domain best are so overloaded (and in
some cases burnt out) that adding mentoring to their agenda may be tricky. TDWG
depends on a few key individuals with advanced skills to progress standards development.
Those poor buggers are stretched to the limit. All the rest of us struggle to
comprehend, let alone catch up. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But as many have said, TDWG needs to address the knowledge gap.
I have sponsored 1-page ‘Executive Summaries’ for Darwin
Core, ABCD, TCS, TAPIR, NCD (see the various groups web sites) but we don’t
have anything similar on the ontology for example. I may try and tackle this
unless someone else would like to have a go. Any others ideas are more than
welcomed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We did run a
series of introductory workshops at the meeting last year in Fremantle. These
were extremely well attended and did seem to work a treat in getting a lot of
people up to speed in four different. By the way that the programme is shaping
for Montpellier, it looks extremely doubtful that we will have opportunity for a
similar set of workshops, except maybe for an EDIT scratchpad workshop I
believe. I suspect that the Theme on Data Integration that Roger is leading may
provide an opportunity to get up to speed and advance some aspects. Feel free
to add to the current pandemonium of the poor Programme Committee at <a
href="http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/Conferences/Tdwg2009">http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/Conferences/Tdwg2009</a>.
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve cc’d Adrian who can add your mentoring idea to
the agenda of the Executive Committee meeting that we need to have soon. BTW: I
have led the push for mentoring in two large organisations, currently have a
mentor and am mentoring someone else. So I am a keen advocate!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Lee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Lee Belbin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>TDWG Secretariat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tdwg-tag-bounces@lists.tdwg.org
[mailto:tdwg-tag-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>rupertwilson@rhs.org.uk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 14 May 2009 6:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lynette.Woodburn@csiro.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tdwg-tag] [BULK] TDWG ontology revisited ... a newcomer's
perspective<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>As one of those not-so-newcomers who has been attending TDWG
meetings for the last few years I feel I should speak out in agreement with
Lynette. Whilst I may understand the general ideas the techno-speak is
truly baffling. I appreciate that technology is evolving and the TDWG community
is looking for the best way to embrace it but could you not spare a thought for
those organisations like mine who have information they would like to share but
are bewildered by the multitude of ways to do it? Having limited
development resources the last thing I want my organisation to do is deliver
information using technology “a” which is currently flavour of the
moment only to find in twelve months that we should really be using technology
“b” because that is what everyone else is using. I feel there
is also a divide here between the research community which can chop and change
the way it handles its data and the more constrained organisations such as mine
where the data is of critical/core use to the organisation and can’t be
re-purposed as easily.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Perhaps TDWG would also consider identifying mentors who would be
willing to offer support to those lurking in the back of Aladdin’s Cave
currently too scared to come out into the light?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Rupert Wilson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>RHS Horticultural Database<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Royal Horticultural Society<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Wisley, UK.</span><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'> </span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.5pt'>ceipt or use thereof. </span><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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